Hi,
Yeah, but from the usability point of view also, scripting the server
startup wont be much of an user-friendly thing to do I guess, and IMHO, the
dynamic port assignment is too unpredictable to be used in a consistent
manner, where if we use something similar to what I suggested, it will
either succeed or the server will fail to startup. Also, the extension
mechanism as you mentioned won't be guaranteed to support in every library
we use :) ..
Cheers,
Anjana.
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Hiranya Jayathilaka <hira...@wso2.com>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Anjana Fernando <anj...@wso2.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Hiranya Jayathilaka
>> <hira...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Anjana Fernando <anj...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Hiranya,
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Hiranya Jayathilaka
>>>> <hira...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Amila Suriarachchi <am...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This will be a great usability enhancement. People will be able to
>>>>>>> startup multiple carbon servers without changing anything. Everything
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> work OOTB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it depends on the requirement. For me most of the time I need
>>>>>> to run an ESB, DSS, Rules in order to do some integration testing. In
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> case ESB proxies should know the port addresses of the DSS, Rules. So
>>>>>> random
>>>>>> port generation won't work for such senarios.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Most of the time you will start up all the servers before start
>>>>> configuring stuff. So by the time you create the proxy, DSS will be up and
>>>>> running and you will know the endpoint. We log these information at
>>>>> startup
>>>>> and if needed it can be found from the management console as well.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if everyone does that .. that is startup all the servers
>>>> before configuring, also another problem is, your approach will require to
>>>> start the servers in a specific order .. it's a first come-first served
>>>> approach as I see. So in the second time around, if you start the servers
>>>> in
>>>> a different order, the server ports will be totally different.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not a problem IMO. You can always script server start up to maintain
>>> order.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also, as for the common utils method you suggested for opening a socket,
>>>> this will require we always hack into the code that we use, for example,
>>>> Qpid code and LDAP server and so on, and if in the future, if we have a
>>>> dependency which we don't customise the code, like, if we just have an
>>>> orbit
>>>> bundle which points to the official library directly, we can't change the
>>>> code.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is a valid concern. But most products allow some level of extensions
>>> in this space. Axis2 has the concept of AxisConfigurator for an example.
>>>
>>
>> I think we are making things a bit complicated to do a simple thing :) ..
>>
>
> Well, usability matters :)
>
> Thanks,
> Hiranya
>
>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Anjana.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hiranya
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Anjana.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Hiranya
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> Amila.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In Tomcat, the following method is used when certain ports need to
>>>>>>>> be used;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> protected int bind(ServerSocket socket, int portstart, int retries)
>>>>>>>> throws IOException {
>>>>>>>> InetSocketAddress addr = null;
>>>>>>>> while ( retries > 0 ) {
>>>>>>>> try {
>>>>>>>> addr = new InetSocketAddress(getBind(), portstart);
>>>>>>>> socket.bind(addr);
>>>>>>>> setPort(portstart);
>>>>>>>> log.info("Receiver Server Socket bound to:"+addr);
>>>>>>>> return 0;
>>>>>>>> }catch ( IOException x) {
>>>>>>>> retries--;
>>>>>>>> if ( retries <= 0 ) {
>>>>>>>> log.info("Unable to bind server socket
>>>>>>>> to:"+addr+" throwing error.");
>>>>>>>> throw x;
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>> portstart++;
>>>>>>>> try {Thread.sleep(25);}catch( InterruptedException
>>>>>>>> ti){Thread.interrupted();}
>>>>>>>> retries = bind(socket,portstart,retries);
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>> return retries;
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We can provide such a util method and whoever wants to open ports,
>>>>>>>> can request for a port from that util method.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Hiranya Jayathilaka <
>>>>>>>> hira...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Change the HTTP/S ports in mgt-transports.xml (2)
>>>>>>>>> 2. Change the HTTP/S ports in axis2.xml (2)
>>>>>>>>> 3. Change the LDAP ports in carbon.xml (2)
>>>>>>>>> 4. Change the Qpid ports in carbon.xml (2)
>>>>>>>>> 5. Change the JMX ports in advanced/jmx.xml (2)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Total 10 ports to change :(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>>>>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer;
>>>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org
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>>>>> Senior Software Engineer;
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