Specifically, no one here has explained why "creating a Carbon app" is
anything but a distracting digression. The wsdl is already inside a
perfectly good eclipse project. What does creating a carbon app add other
than a distraction from the task at hand?

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Sumedha Rubasinghe <sume...@wso2.com>wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com> wrote:
>
>> Isn't there a better more straightforward way of doing this, with a lesser
>> number of steps?
>
>
> If your referring to steps mentioned by Harshana, I don't think there is
> much left for us to reduce (except for #2, which we have discussed b4).
> But, if you referring to the steps in the wizard, those are mainly due to
> our decision to use Eclipse's existing support for Web Services. This
> decision was taken some time ago when we started CS efforts & might look
> ugly with respect to today's context.
>
> /sumedha
>
>
>
>>
>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Harshana Martin <harsh...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Waruna,
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:57 PM, Waruna Ranasinghe <war...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Saminda,
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Saminda Wijeratne <samin...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Following is a bullet point list of what CS can do for App Server.
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Web Services
>>>>>       - Create/Edit Axis2 Web Service
>>>>>          - Contract first (Top down approach)
>>>>>
>>>>> Where can I find the docs for the contract first approach?
>>>> I tried the "new Axis2 service" wizard, but it does not show an option
>>>> to create a service using a wsdl.
>>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Add your WSDl file to a C-App project
>>> 2. Change your Eclipse perspective to JavaEE (if you are not already in
>>> it)
>>> 3. Right click on the WSDL file -> Web Services -> Generate Java Bean
>>> Skeleton (Shown in attached Figure 1)
>>>
>>> Generating client option is also there.
>>>
>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>> Harshana
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Waruna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    - Code first (Bottom-up approach)
>>>>>       - Create/Edit Data Services
>>>>>       - Package & deploy JAX-WS, Axis2 web services & Data services to
>>>>>       CAR formats
>>>>>       - Test/Debug all java based web service
>>>>>       - Create WSDL for axis2 web service archive (aar file)
>>>>>       - Generate web service client
>>>>>          - From aar file
>>>>>          - WSDL
>>>>>       - Web Applications
>>>>>       - Create/edit web applications
>>>>>       - Test/Debug
>>>>>       - Package & deploy to CAR formats
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Saminda
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Samisa Abeysinghe <sam...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is still too verbose. Please see my earlier reply to Harshana. I
>>>>>> just need a list of "what" features each tool/plug-in inside CS support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And please do not wait till next release. We need this today to
>>>>>> explain to users what they can do with CS. So consider at least updating 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> hosted docs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plus, we need the details how on each as well - that can go with next
>>>>>> release.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Chathuri Wimalasena <
>>>>>> chath...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have to log in to OT, to view the attached doc. It contains most
>>>>>>> of the functionalities that are available in app server space in a 
>>>>>>> detailed
>>>>>>> manner. (attaching the doc)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We will create a doc and add this to Carbon Studio documentation for
>>>>>>> our next release. Created a Jira 
>>>>>>> [1<https://wso2.org/jira/browse/TOOLS-402>]
>>>>>>> for this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Chathuri
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://wso2.org/jira/browse/TOOLS-402
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Samisa Abeysinghe 
>>>>>>> <sam...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is the doc attached? I see an image only attached to the
>>>>>>>> thread.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This query comes from a customer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We need to have a focused list of features, like in a data sheet, in
>>>>>>>> each of the area that we support developing using CS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Right now, I cannot find any one stop shop in terms of what I can
>>>>>>>> use CS with each product/are of use.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please add this to the doc, and also maintain for each release.
>>>>>>>> Please send me the link once you do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Chathuri Wimalasena <
>>>>>>>> chath...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Samisa,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Once a user has raised a question regarding 
>>>>>>>>> [1<http://wso2.org/forum/thread/11305>]
>>>>>>>>> service creation in carbon studio user forum. In the attached doc, 
>>>>>>>>> for that
>>>>>>>>> forum post, includes most of the functionalities that are capable from
>>>>>>>>> carbon studio in WSAS tools.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1] http://wso2.org/forum/thread/11305
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <http://wso2.org/forum/thread/11305>Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Chathuri
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Harshana Martin <harsh...@wso2.com
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Samisa Abeysinghe <
>>>>>>>>>> sam...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So again my original question - where is this feature set
>>>>>>>>>>> documented? I need a link please...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We have these features documented in the CS documentation [1] [2].
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [1].
>>>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org/project/carbon-studio/1.0.2.1/axis2_jaxws_category.html
>>>>>>>>>> [2].
>>>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org/project/carbon-studio/1.0.2.1/testing_deploying_category.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://wso2.org/project/carbon-studio/1.0.2.1/axis2_jaxws_category.html>Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> and Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Harshana
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Harshana Martin <
>>>>>>>>>>> harsh...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Harshana Martin <
>>>>>>>>>>>> harsh...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 8:26 AM, Isuru Suriarachchi <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Samisa Abeysinghe <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sam...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a doc on this? Is the following right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Create axis2 Web Services
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Creating server/client web service stubs using a wsdl file
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Convert wsdl 1.1 to 2.0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We removed WSDL converter sometime back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have added this again in recent CS 1.0.2 release after the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> usability discussion session with Azeez.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oops! sorry. It's not the wdsl converter we have added again,
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's the generate wsdl option we have provided again. My bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Harshana
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harshana
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Create axis2 archives with created axis2 web services
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Validate axis2 archives
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Validate axis2 modules
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We've removed AAR and MAR validators as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Given java class create the wsdl for it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In addition to these, we have the following.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Webapp deployment and management.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> C-App deployment and management.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SOAP Tracer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Message flow monitor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try-It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~Isuru
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, what features are supported for other products?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We need to have this as part of the documentation and be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> updated with every release (if we do not already have that)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samisa...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samisa Abeysinghe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VP Engineering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wso2.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Technical Lead & Product Manager, WSO2 Application Server
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email : is...@wso2.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blog : http://isurues.wordpress.com/
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harshana Martin
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Web:http://wso2.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           http://wso2.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer
>>>>>>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc.
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>>>>>>>>>>> Samisa...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Samisa Abeysinghe
>>>>>>>>>>> VP Engineering
>>>>>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>>>>>>> http://wso2.com
>>>>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> Software Engineer
>>>>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>>>>>> Web:http://wso2.com
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>>>>>>>> Samisa...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Samisa Abeysinghe
>>>>>>>> VP Engineering
>>>>>>>> WSO2 Inc.
>>>>>>>> http://wso2.com
>>>>>>>> http://wso2.org
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Samisa Abeysinghe
>>>>>> VP Engineering
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