Why do we not get rid of those ones that are likely to fail for no reason?

I too am concerned on false positives aspect. In other words, if there is a
failure, it better be one that we got to jump up and fix.

Apache Axis2 is far more simple to live with few failures here and there.
But not in Carbon.

On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Srinath Perera <srin...@wso2.com> wrote:

> IMHO, we should change the tests that lead to transient errors if at all
> possible ...
>
> Fails positives will hurt us lot when we try to get everyone to really
> serious about keeping the build unbroken
>
> --Srinath
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Afkham Azeez <az...@wso2.com> wrote:
>
>> I won't be too concerned. Even in the Axis2 Jenkins server you get weird
>> failures once in a while. Apart from the timestamp comparison test failure,
>> I don't see any real issue in the other 2 tests that failed.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Samisa Abeysinghe <sam...@wso2.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Srinath Perera <srin...@wso2.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So our success so short lived?
>>>>
>>>> Funny thing is Harashana's commits look unrelated from these test
>>>> failures.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, they have nothing to do with those commits :(
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> --Srinath
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Date: Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 5:52 AM
>>>> Subject: [Bamboo-Build] WSO2 Carbon Trunk > WSO2 Carbon - Platform
>>>> Trunk > #87 has FAILED (3 tests failed). Change made by harshana.
>>>> To: srin...@wso2.com
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> *3/7771* tests failed.
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>>>>     Job
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>>>> harshana<http://builder4.us1.wso2.org:8888/bamboo/browse/author/harshana>
>>>> Added maven incremental build plugin  118750    
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>>>> Included maven incremental build plugin in to hector wso2 dependency
>>>> 118742    
>>>> harshana<http://builder4.us1.wso2.org:8888/bamboo/browse/author/harshana>
>>>> Included maven incremental build plugin in to svn client wso2 bundle
>>>> 118741   1 more 
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>>>>   WSO2
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