It seems you see what I was thinking. In fact, the hospital I am consulting for would like me to build a customized research module into care2x for this purpose. I have not yet hired a coder, but I hope if I sign the contract to do so next month.
They would like to be able to see (among other things):
1) Number of in/out patients in a given period of time
2) Number of diagnosed cases of certain illness in given period of time
3) Amount of people with given illness treated with certain medication and with what results and so forth
Some of the things they want to know would be useful for a pharmaceutical company (nice to see you had same idea, so I know I wasn't way off). Example when a medicine is used for an illness how many recover, what recovery times, what % of cases were treated with another drug, what were recovery times with them. Such data would be very valueble. If care2x had its hands on such data in many countries we wowuld have a very braod spectrum. It would cover all classes of life (from 3rd world countries to first world), poor to rich and so forth, also from different types of environments and so forth. It would become a very broad based research.
Of course, the downside is we need logic. Building a mechanism for a simple search on categories already in database is a start, but then we need a place to collect it, and a way to categorize countries.
A whole other can of worms is opened when we want to make money out of it, we need to find someone to buy it. Who of us has time to canvas pharmaceutical companies?
Another idea just hit me, could not medical area companies write articles that we place in the main page new section. This would be much as advertising. But it would allow valueble information to doctors, while allowing medical companies to pay to get straight to hospital. We only need to make a "pull" system into one of the news boxes.
OK enough said.
regards,
TimS
From: "Arjun Asthana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re: [Care2002-developers] Business Model
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 21:39:11 +0500
Dear Tim,
The use of data can be really a good model.
Lets look at it this way :
(i) All pharma companies need pharmacological research (I mean the effect of their medicines/...)
(ii) They do spend a lot of money doing this research.
Its not a bad idea for them to use the data. But this may not be able to fund entire cost. Another idea is :
(i) If there is paid delivery of services, charge a small fee (you need to be really good at costing & pricing of BOO/T, build own operate/transfer projects) per transaction from the customer.
(ii) A lot of reasearch work is done in medicine by various organisations and individuals, the data can be useful for them.
How ever, the data is utilisable only if you can run a very intelligent pattern recognition software. You could plot it on a GIS and make use of other geographical parameters to match against type of ground water/soil type/.......
Another thing which can be done is : the drug prescription module can first show up medicines from the funding pharma company to help the funding.
We have been looking at such models espcially for funding govt projects. Do let me know if you can think of any other models.
Regards. Atul Asthana [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004-02-28 19:35:04
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
--Mahatma Gandhi
======= At 2004-02-28, 10:48:00 Tim S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: =======
>Regarding the business model, I met a consultant form Australia who had a
>project with the same hospital I have a project with. He did not take a fee
>from the hospital, but he chose to take anonymous patient data for use in
>reports generating and stuff like that. This might be a bit far fetched for
>care2x, but from reading the list it seems we do have a few researchers for
>whom data is quite important.
>
>Owning data regarding patients in hospitals worldwide could be useful for
>companies doing research, which being anonymous and live data, perhaps some
>of those researchers on the list would know how to turn that data into
>money. I am sorry I can not be more helpful in that.
>
>Perhaps we can give options to hospitals using the system. A well written,
>professional doc reminding them how much money they save using the system,
>and offering an option for donations, data, or perhaps that they must use a
>care2x approved consultant for installations/updates or whatever. Who could
>then deduct his/her expenses and put the rest onto a care2x account or
>something.
>
>I know it is a simplistic approach, but I am a simple person :)
>
>TimS
>
>
>
>>From: Wilfried Goedert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>To: "J. Antas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] email support system
>>Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 11:26:06 +0100
>>
>>Hello J. Antas,
>>
>>you wrote:
>>
>>
>> >> j) Business models for Care2x
>>
>>I search some modells and ideas, how industry/hospitals can give back
>>something
>>if they use care2x. Not everyone is IBM.
>>
>>I think about Consultants, Healthcare Providers etc.
>>
>>Any Ideas. Donation Systems are mostly not accepted
>>
>>--
>>
>>Wilfried Goedert
>>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*.
>http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail
>
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now.
>Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with
>a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now!
>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click
>_______________________________________________
>Care2002-developers mailing list
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click _______________________________________________ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
_________________________________________________________________
STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net is sponsored by: Speed Start Your Linux Apps Now. Build and deploy apps & Web services for Linux with a free DVD software kit from IBM. Click Now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1356&alloc_id=3438&op=click _______________________________________________ Care2002-developers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/care2002-developers
