Hi Gugs 

Is it possible to use this features (Confirmation of inability to work, Charts 
folder, Diagnostic Results, Medocs, 
DRG (composite), Prescriptions, Notes & Reports, Immunization, Measurements, 
Pregnancies, Birth details) when the patient is admitted as OUTPATIENT. 
I know is possible when the patient is INPATIENT. What I've noticed is that 
they are all in-active when the patient is OUTPATIENT , 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Schofield" <tim.schofield1...@googlemail.com> 
To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net 
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 10:18:37 AM GMT +02:00 Harare / Pretoria 
Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care evolution 

Hi, 

As Robert mentioned we now have a version that links completely with 
webERP from registration and admission through Radiology/Pharmacy/Lab 
through to billing, doing all the necessary accounting and stock 
entries automatically. 

I am now in the process of cleaning up that code and then feeding into 
sourceforge those parts that we would want in the main line. 

I think it is time that we start to bring the various Care2x versions 
together into one version. For instance having a flexible registration 
form that can be altered for different locations. 

Tim 


2009/8/14 Robert Meggle <meg...@merotech.de>: 
> Hi Frank, 
> 
> Thanks for that encouraging email! And it seems we have quite similar 
> ideas. 
> 
> First of all we should focus the "one release" idea. By Monday next week 
> I will upload the latest release we have done so far for the Arusha 
> team. Tim and Beth worked long and hard to get a functional interface to 
> webERP and now it is working. It contain even the pharmacy and stock 
> interface and some other nice features. I am sure that Tim will comment 
> his work by himself. 
> 
> This step is a quite interesting and now we are together when we talk 
> about to centralize. At the end there should be one version and not 
> branch what determine what could be used in what case. 
> 
> Also some other ideas in my mind what we could do, different scenarios I 
> got from Hospitals. One example would be Equador who asked if there 
> would be a way to start the implementation just with laboratory instead 
> of registration. Other ideas are quite more easy to realize, when e.g. a 
> internal department like the dentist clinic has appointments of patients 
> not registered so far. 
> 
> Each testing step must be cleared and I am sure we will find quite many 
> tester of our system. :-) 
> 
> First.. let show us together how we can use all to merge it. That would 
> be the good step. "Cleaning the code", as you mentioned, is also a 
> needed step. Maybe we could call it "code review" and we have now a nice 
> roadmap. 
> 
> Thanks 
> Robert 
> 
> Am Freitag, den 14.08.2009, 16:59 +0300 schrieb frank tilugulilwa: 
>> Dear All, 
>> 
>> I am not intending to distort anything said below by Gjergi. Its a 
>> brilliant observation/email, please receive my appreciation. 
>> 
>> @ UCC Limited (Tanzania), i am the 3rd if not 4th developer to be given 
>> this challenge to study Care2X. It has not been an easy task. 
>> 
>> Suggestions : 
>> 
>> 1. To harness efforts/ skills of different programmers, we should have a 
>> central repository (for development version) where all changes are 
>> committed to it. No individual repos/ multiple copies. 
>> 
>> 2. There should be a way to have a Care2X stable release @ agreed 
>> interval 
>> 
>> 3. We should start cleaning the directory and file structure (what 
>> should be here and what there). we have to agree on the standards to be 
>> followed. 
>> 
>> 4. We should clean the code itself, unused code and re-arranging some. 
>> 
>> 5. We should also document the architecture and the existing modules 
>> 
>> 6. All bugs should be centrally reported. ( can use Trac etc), this will 
>> create a knowledge base as well 
>> 
>> 7. Feature requests should be communicated to the list, we should have 
>> some sort of a whitepaper before developing something for people to 
>> participate/ contribute to the idea. 
>> 
>> 8. Testing team should be identified. We can all test but at least few 
>> of us should be responsible for testing and reporting back. 
>> 
>> 
>> If we do 60% of these Care2X will be a killer application. 
>> 
>> Which leg to start now? left or right ? 
>> 
>> My few cents! 
>> 
>> Thanking you, 
>> Frank Tilugulilwa 
>> 
>> On Sun, 2009-08-02 at 20:52 +0200, Gjergj Sheldija wrote: 
>> > hi all 
>> > 
>> > this mail was sent some time ago..i think thay i should resend it 
>> > again.. 
>> > 
>> > A long time has passed since c2x appeared and a lot of things have 
>> > changed over the years. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > PHP has become a more robust and business oriented language, a lot of 
>> > tools are disposable for developers and a lot of new business 
>> > strategies are available to help with the common day to day problems 
>> > that we encounter. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Localization and internationalization are now more easy that they 
>> > used 
>> > to be, and php 6 promises even further improvements via Unicode 
>> > support. Creating user documentation is now much more easy via wiki’s 
>> > and Java script libraries can help a lot with designing rich and 
>> > practical UI. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > I thing that the time is right to start a small revolution in c2x; 
>> > i’ll list here some suggestion that I think would be useful, they may 
>> > be right, may not; it’s up to the community to decide. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Printing 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > I think printing should be centralized, we should use a centralized 
>> > code to do that. Agatha with some improvements could ease the 
>> > creation 
>> > of new print forms without the need to specify pdf coordinated by 
>> > hand 
>> > as we actually do. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Localization 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > The current way c2x has of handling translation is very hard to 
>> > maintain and error prone. A migration to gettext could ease the 
>> > translation efforts and help c2x greaten it’s userbase. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Besides that there are strange cases like js_<lang>_sex_title.php 
>> > which is not used in any file. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Manual / Help files 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > We all know how hard it is to write, update c2x help files, that why 
>> > not use a wiki engine ? It would easy the process of maintenance of 
>> > the the help files, it’s much more easy to translate and this way we 
>> > could create a much needed manual, and have it updated automatically. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > HL7 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > The actual implementation of HL7 is practically non existent. But the 
>> > we should discuss here about v2 or v3, and if it has to be part of 
>> > every module, or it should be and external library. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > The Code…. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Here are a lot of things that should be changed and and lot should be 
>> > deleted. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > * First there is a lot of code that should be rewritten, think 
>> > about sql code inside the module code, which is not a good practice. 
>> > * Second there is no real separation of modules, module files are 
>> > scattered all around the directory tree, which makes even harder to 
>> > apply updates and change code around. 
>> > * Third , the code needs some major clean up; there is a lot of 
>> > unused code all over which makes further improvements difficult. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > And a lot of other things that I didn’t mention. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > UI 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Major improvements should be done on the ui side, from simple things 
>> > as changing the tab interface from using images to simple js, to new 
>> > visualization of the ward, to the possibility of connecting a 
>> > specific 
>> > user or group of users to a specific module – an example is the 
>> > Glasgow Coma Scale. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > The notification system used in the labs, pharmacy, depot, technical 
>> > is a bit outdated, a little ajax could make it much more usable. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > A new theming engine css based could help much more and ease the 
>> > creation of new UI. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Other scattered ideas.. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Other things that could be helpful is we should start to use 
>> > automatic 
>> > testing, modules can be installable from a central repository, the 
>> > possibility of connecting specific users to specific modules,etc. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Another thing is that we should avoid static configuration in files 
>> > like $OpenTimes in lang_<lang>_abteilung.php and preferably have them 
>> > stored in the db. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > this mail could be even more lengthy, but I hope you understand my 
>> > point : c2x should evolve and it needs our help to do it! 
>> > 
>> > gj. 
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