Robert!
I have no intention of starting a new repository! Not sure how I led you to
believe I wanted to do that...
On the contrary - I'm much more on "your guys's" page than I was when I
first approached you, and very happy to be. I was very eager to work on
care2x, but felt a bit of a disconnect before I meandered back here.
I am a little bit nervous, though, as I am new to the Subversion tool, but
all I've done is check the code out at this point. I know it's possible to
commit my code without being in danger of overwriting until we want it to
be overwritten and I'm studying the manual before I send anything back. In
the meantime, I am keeping a good changelog going in my working copy.
Time got me all set up with a good working environment using Eclipse when
the code was on radiokili, but its easier for me to use my terminal for
synchronization and my ubuntu localhost for my working copy than it would
be to figure out the SVN/Eclipse deal.
I hope I've cleared any misunderstanding! The SVN I plan to work on is the
eclt branch - YOUR eclt branch WITH you! Right?
Beth
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> Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2012 21:25:36 +0200
> From: Robert Meggle <meg...@merotech.de>
> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Care2002-developers Digest, Vol 69,
> Issue 5
> To: care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
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> Hi Beth,
>
> Am Freitag, den 06.07.2012, 14:40 -0400 schrieb Beth Lesko:
> > That link brought me to silicon valley north...
> >
> > Thanks, we will set an svn repository up.
>
> In your previous mail you mentioned to look for an way that developers
> are able to contribute. To have an own svn repository would be represent
> just the opposite of what you're looking for.
>
> I would recommend to take a look to your project vision and cross-check
> if an own svn repository would bring you one step further to that aim.
> In your first mail you asked Tim about an broken cvs connection and you
> got the information that there is no private cvs anymore. Now you plan
> to create an new one instead of using the existing svn of care2x?
>
> The aim of any open source project is to get the sources free and you
> have also the freedom of commit own changes back. If you abdicate latter
> you can completely do without us.
>
> But you have also the option to use the svn of sf.net as repository. So
> why not using it?
>
> Thanks
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:18:09 -0400
> From: Beth Lesko <bethle...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Care2002-developers] Sourceforge HLH repository
> To: Robert Meggle <megglerob...@googlemail.com>,
> care2002-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> Cc: "Elisante, Martin" <elisan...@elct.or.tz>, Amon Ndeki
> <ndeki.a...@haydom.co.tz>, moye masenga <moy...@gmail.com>,
> "pascal,
> israel" <israel.pasca...@gmail.com>, "Niemi, Mauri"
> <mauri.ni...@gmail.com>, "Kimollo, Pauline" <paul...@elct.or.tz>
> Message-ID:
> <CA+u_1vx1RYokyMEv76C1ZfeJ_VZXqt19iX4fN8qD=
> p9sfkf...@mail.gmail.com>
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>
> I totally get that, Robert - this has to be in the "hobby" category unless
> there is some compensation. I've actually been attempting some fundraising
> for developers that contribute to Care2x. My original intent was Haydom,
> but all of Tanzania can benefit from this (these) applications in a huge
> way - but that can be more thoroughly discussed in another email. I would
> definitely like your input on my salespitch - and some "permission" to
> direct people to care2x.org.
>
> I've done some pretty intense be-bopping around the elct merged version
> (very much appreciate your explanation, Robert) and understand much better
> why some parts won't display. The many parts need further merging. I was
> able to get registration, billing, insurance, prescriptions, reports,
> appointments, outpatient, charts and nursing to partially show up outside
> the menu on the left and login (startpage), which is encouraging. I was not
> able to get labs and radiology to show at all, but I believe if I use my
> almc version to get the paths to those areas, they may show right away (I'm
> using my HLH instance right now).
>
> Upgrading all the function calls in index.php may do it, but I suspect it
> may be a conflict between various authorization check methods. I'm thinking
> of starting with registration, since the functionality of the rest of the
> app depends on having patients to assign services to, and think it may be a
> quick fix. It won't let me submit the form until I select a health fund or
> "cash", but there are no health funds entered and "cash" is not populating
> the dropdown list. I need to get webERP installed and target the admin
> panel early on so I can verify registrations are successfully posting in
> webERP. Module by module, we should be able to get all the separate
> functionalities working together. Discussion of each module could focus on
> Moye's "options" idea, which he appears to have already started to make
> available in admin (such as using auto-generated hospital record numbers or
> text input).
>
> Other's have probably contributed to this too, so sorry if I haven't
> mentioned you.
>
> I'd be happy to pump out some tickets as I identify problems, if that's
> okay with everyone. I'm sending this note, along with the history of this
> discussion, to the developer list, so give Robert a holler if you aren't
> okay with that :-P
>
> Happy to be working on this project again. Thanks for your contributions.
>
> Beth
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 12:34 AM, Robert Meggle <
> megglerob...@googlemail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > Hi Beth,
> >
> > first of all: cool down.
> >
> > I will start from beginning to explain what happen and what does this all
> > mean.
> >
> > On sf.net you will find the branch what is assigned to be the "unique"
> > version:
> >
> >
> http://care2002.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/care2002/care2x_tz/branches/care2x_elct/
> >
> > It was the version I got called "merged version". With the word "merged"
> > it is the meaning of: The functionalities of some hospitlas (but not HLH)
> > is there done. Issue here was that it was not working anymore at all and
> > under PHP 5.3 the huge amount of depreciated PHP functions and even not
> > working session management collapsed here.
> > I have fixed that all that it might should work, a full test is
> > outstanding. Guess here and there there are still some showstopper in it.
> > That was work of several days but then I had to stop my volunteer
> > contribution to that project, notbody can work for free.
> >
> > Then I also got some other code from HLH and also got information that
> > another, different verison might be running on KCMC in Moshi. Might be
> > true, maybe not. I do have no further information about that.
> >
> > So all code what I ever god I pushed it to sf.net. Not for the idea to
> > continue the development there, just to have it on a place where all can
> > access and to crosscheck what are the different requirements of each
> > facility and if the so called "merged" version is really a "merged"
> version.
> >
> > For that short test I found out that most of the work was been done on
> the
> > front site. Whoever did that work he did not took care about the
> > circumstances of having a dialogue with webERP. Just on the care2x_elct
> > branch above I had seen most of these functions what I implemented
> together
> > with TIm in the project 2008. But here it seems that just partially this
> > interface had been maintained. Most focus care2x got was on the front
> site.
> >
> > Also the database was not fitting to the verison I got, some tables and
> > columns I had to create by doing reverse engineering.
> >
> > As I saw that these subculture of different versions cannot be done just
> > within some hours what I can spent on the project on volunteer basis I
> > contacted ELCT and asked for small budget to balance out my basis cost
> (non
> > profit!). The answer was that there is no budget anymore. So when there
> is
> > time and a bit of financial cushion on my site again then I think I will
> > continue - for so long I just give support as much as possible. But
> > actually I do have so service commitments and a family at home that my
> free
> > support has to be limited a bit so I cannot guide you into the
> > developments. I do hope all here do understand what I mean. It is not
> that
> > I stopped working on the project - it was just the circumstance that
> there
> > seems for me not the good basis to continue in that way.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 18.07.2012 05:38, schrieb Beth Lesko:
> >
> > That's right, you said you were in the process of changing the funtions
> to
> > 5.3 - where are you with that? Guess it'll have to be the first priority.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Beth Lesko <bethle...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Revision log says 5.3 ready, so that's not it...
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Beth Lesko <bethle...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Seriously? I have to downgrade to PHP4? I have HLH's test environment
> >>> working on my ubuntu box's localhost... That can't be...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Robert Meggle <
> >>> megglerob...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> yes, this is the correct branch. Please check the svn history for the
> >>>> changelist.
> >>>>
> >>>> Robet
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 17.07.2012 21:15, schrieb Beth Lesko:
> >>>>
> >>>> So this one?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://care2002.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/care2002/care2x_tz/branches/care2x_elct/
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Beth Lesko <bethle...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> So any tickets categorized as care2x_tz are re: the branch? Has
> anyone
> >>>>> who has been assigned fallen inactive? Tip me off in a direction?
> Billing?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Beth Lesko <bethle...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes - the one on sourceforge - and I just discovered a ticket as
> >>>>>> recent as 4/2012. So the care2x_tz branch? Okay! Is that the one
> you're
> >>>>>> working on Moye?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Robert Meggle <
> >>>>>> megglerob...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I guess to the tracker on sf.net. Correct?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Robert
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Am 17.07.2012 19:11, schrieb Tim Schofield:
> >>>>>>> > What ticket system are you referring to?
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > On 17 July 2012 17:21, Beth Lesko <bethle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> >> Yes, I have seen all the development over the years - really
> nice
> >>>>>>> work!
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> I noticed the ticket system had no new tickets after around Aug,
> >>>>>>> 2011 - has
> >>>>>>> >> development slowed?
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> How can I help?
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Tim Schofield <
> >>>>>>> t...@weberpafrica.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>> Hi Beth,
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> A lot has happened with care2x at other hospitals since you
> were
> >>>>>>> last
> >>>>>>> >>> involved. I think the document you mentioned will be way out of
> >>>>>>> date
> >>>>>>> >>> now. Before going off on your own you need to discuss this with
> >>>>>>> >>> Pauline/Robert/Moye/Mauri and maybe others to find out what the
> >>>>>>> >>> situation is and how best you can contribute. These people have
> >>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>> >>> been heavily involved with the development of care2x since you
> >>>>>>> were
> >>>>>>> >>> there.
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> My only interested in care2x at the moment is where it overlaps
> >>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>> >>> webERP, but I would be grateful to be copied in on the
> >>>>>>> discussions.
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> Thanks
> >>>>>>> >>> Tim
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> On 12 July 2012 16:46, Beth Lesko <bethle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>>> Hi :-)
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> I am game for getting the core of Haydom's "version" in
> >>>>>>> alignment with
> >>>>>>> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> >>>> core of Care2x_tz and/or Care2x. It is unfortunate that we
> >>>>>>> broke off to
> >>>>>>> >>>> the
> >>>>>>> >>>> extent we did.
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> For now, my main goal would be to get what they have working,
> >>>>>>> so the
> >>>>>>> >>>> current
> >>>>>>> >>>> users are okay (not limited by errors). I propose the building
> >>>>>>> of a tz
> >>>>>>> >>>> core
> >>>>>>> >>>> between arusha and haydom and any maybe even other hospitals
> in
> >>>>>>> TZ using
> >>>>>>> >>>> care2x.
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> With hospital software, either the software is modified to
> suit
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> >>>> current
> >>>>>>> >>>> practices (work flow) or the hospital's work flow is changed.
> >>>>>>> The
> >>>>>>> >>>> differences in practices between Arusha and Haydom are due
> >>>>>>> mostly to the
> >>>>>>> >>>> different cultures and resources available to them. I think
> >>>>>>> there will
> >>>>>>> >>>> always need to be separate branches. Moye has the right idea
> by
> >>>>>>> >>>> suggesting
> >>>>>>> >>>> the modules be plugins offering options for the needed
> >>>>>>> differences in
> >>>>>>> >>>> functionality.
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> Haydom appears to not have any money for further development
> or
> >>>>>>> even
> >>>>>>> >>>> maintenance of the current software, so maybe now is the time
> >>>>>>> to offer
> >>>>>>> >>>> replacement of some of Haydom's inactive aspects with ALMC's.
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> In 2009, we did a thorough assessment of the changes
> requested,
> >>>>>>> >>>> including a
> >>>>>>> >>>> column for HLH and one for ALMC, showing agreement and
> >>>>>>> differences in
> >>>>>>> >>>> needs.
> >>>>>>> >>>> This will be very useful, especially updated with any changes
> >>>>>>> already
> >>>>>>> >>>> completed. I believe changes have been coded at ALMC, but I
> >>>>>>> think Haydom
> >>>>>>> >>>> has
> >>>>>>> >>>> changed very little since 2009 - only what Moye did over the
> >>>>>>> past year
> >>>>>>> >>>> and
> >>>>>>> >>>> maybe Tim on webERP, if any.
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> Look forward to further discussion,
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> Beth
> >>>>>>> >>>> 307-298-0706
> >>>>>>> >>>> beth_lesko on skype
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Robert Meggle
> >>>>>>> >>>> <megglerob...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>>>> Hi Beth,
> >>>>>>> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your offer. The main challenge is to get just one
> >>>>>>> tanzanian
> >>>>>>> >>>>> version for all hospitals and not a specific version for each
> >>>>>>> facility.
> >>>>>>> >>>>> Latter rised up after 2008 and ended up with non maintainable
> >>>>>>> code -
> >>>>>>> >>>>> and
> >>>>>>> >>>>> that should not happen.
> >>>>>>> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>>> I would be happy when your attitude of this project would not
> >>>>>>> see just
> >>>>>>> >>>>> the Haydom specific issues. The haydom code is somehow kept
> >>>>>>> individual
> >>>>>>> >>>>> and not visible for others - and so I cannot give you any
> >>>>>>> advice for
> >>>>>>> >>>>> that. For the first step you can have an branch for it on
> >>>>>>> sf.net but in
> >>>>>>> >>>>> a long term it should be the aim to discuss the differencies
> >>>>>>> of each
> >>>>>>> >>>>> version and make it available for all specific requirements.
> >>>>>>> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>> >>>>> Robert
> >>>>>>> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>>> Am 12.07.2012 16:59, schrieb Beth Lesko:
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Robert,
> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I am working with Amon at HLH to get access to their test
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> environment.
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Once I have access, I can verify that it is working (with
> the
> >>>>>>> webERP
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> interface). I'm not sure what the HLH branch on sourceforge
> >>>>>>> is - was
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> that copied from Haydom? Depending on your answer, we will
> >>>>>>> either be
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> able to compare or just replace what is there. I would like
> >>>>>>> to set up
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> a cron job, as you suggested, to update Haydom with updates
> >>>>>>> on a
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> regular basis.
> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I also have a 33 page document with change requests that i
> >>>>>>> can enter
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> as tickets for anyone who wants to help out with the haydom
> >>>>>>> branch.
> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> I know you are very busy. I'd be happy to take admin level
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> responsibility for Haydom's branch, or help in any way.
> >>>>>>> Please let me
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> know how to proceed.
> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Beth
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> 307-298-0706
> >>>>>>> >>>>>> beth_lesko on skype
> >>>>>>> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>>> --
> >>>>>>> >>>>> ---
> >>>>>>> >>>>> http://www.radiokili.org/
> >>>>>>> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>> --
> >>>>>>> >>>> Beth
> >>>>>>> >>>> 307-298-0706
> >>>>>>> >>>>
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> --
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> >>>>>>> >>> www.weberpafrica.com
> >>>>>>> >>> @TimSchofield2
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> --
> >>>>>>> >> Beth
> >>>>>>> >> 307-298-0706
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>> http://www.radiokili.org/
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Beth
> >>>>>> 307-298-0706
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Beth
> >>>>> 307-298-0706
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Beth
> >>>> 307-298-0706
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> ---http://www.radiokili.org/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Beth
> >>> 307-298-0706
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Beth
> >> 307-298-0706
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Beth
> > 307-298-0706
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ---http://www.radiokili.org/
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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