On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:36 PM, David Whitehurst
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Benn:
>
> Also JBoss uses an End User License Agreement (EULA).  I think this is
> a good idea especially for a "product".  Instead of a JA-SIG
> stand-alone license, you could use a JA-SIG EULA for each product.

I don't believe we'll be looking to EULA's considering most people hate them!:
http://xkcd.org/501/

;-)

>
>
> David
>
> On 11/18/08, David Whitehurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Benn:
>>
>> This is so crazy!  Let me share a situation I am dealing with now.  I
>> am contracted for organization A to create enterprise architecture.
>> Organization B has more political clout so they force an Oracle
>> solution (identity management) on me for one specific application
>> suite.  The Oracle solution uses it's own licence but tests their
>> product on version 2.0.52 for Apache.  We use and have accepted
>> version 2.2.8 of Apache.  This is just one of the constraints.  So,
>> now my enterprise solution, using JBoss and the LGPL (includes all
>> these licenses) must be run on an IIS Windows server using a terminal
>> window to start and stop JBoss.  They won't buy an NT Service wrapper.
>>
>> My issue as an evangelist and integrator of open source, is that the
>> licenses cause lots of confusion.  People choose them incorrectly.
>> Or, they choose "something".  Or they ignore them altogether.  For
>> CAS, I would use a GNU license and maybe the LGPL.  I think at least
>> there's strong legal intelligence behind it.  And, I think that the
>> goal is to let us write and share software to be able to communicate
>> with computers in the most effective manner.  And, by sharing what we
>> learn, things only get better.  We've already made the wheel.  We
>> should use it.
>>
>> I'm anxious to see what license is chosen.  I'm starting a non-profit
>> organization and some open source projects with another friend and we
>> haven't chosen a license.  We will model the organization much like
>> Apache but somewhat custom.  I've been leaning towards the GNU
>> licenses.  And, our stuff won't be an Apache product so why associate
>> with Apache.  I think the license should support the goal and I
>> haven't hired a lawyer for this task yet.  When I ultimately do loose
>> the cash for the lawyer, I'll share anything I find with all my
>> partners in crime.
>>
>> Please post here with any news.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On 11/18/08, Benn Oshrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > --On November 18, 2008 8:37:16 AM -0500 Scott Battaglia
>> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > ] We're looking at a license that provides more protection for
>> > ] contributors and adapters.  I'm not actually on the working group
>> > ] looking into this, but I trust their judgment ;-)
>> >
>> > ] On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 2:55 AM, Olivier Berger
>> > ] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > ] > Just out of curiosity, what's the rationale for change from BSD to
>> > ] > Apache2 ?
>> >
>> > In addition to the protection issue, there is also concern about license
>> > alignment with other open-source higher ed oriented projects.
>> >
>> > One of the questions that has come up is whether or not GPL style copyleft
>> > should be included.  I'd be interested to hear if anybody has any strong
>> > opinions for or against, off list if you prefer.
>> >
>> > -Benn-
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