My bad...I guess that makes it even more important to find out if this is the problem on Windows? :)

-Jon

On Oct 6, 2009, at 6:26 PM, Jonathan Ellis wrote:

Just to clarify, Cassandra only uses UDP for gossip -- passing data
between nodes is done over TCP.

-Jonathan

On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Jonathan Mischo <jmis...@quagility.com> wrote:
Back in the day, I was involved in performance testing JVMs, Solaris on
Intel, and SWS at SunSoft, and our lab actually ran not just our own
numbers, but competitors' numbers as well, for comparison. One thing we discovered, when analyzing some performance issues we'd seen with Windows clients, was that Windows' network stacks don't behave as you'd expect.
 They very regularly transmitted packets out of sequence.
I'm not sure if this is still the case, as this was the late 90's, but we discovered this when we were working on SPECweb numbers (we were a SPEC lab) for SWS and, in looking at the JVM and other system settings to understand why we were seeing unexpectedly large TCP buffers. When we started sniffing packets directly from the Windows clients, we discovered the packets were being emitted out of sequence, which was causing the server to require larger per-connection buffers and was pushing TCP window size boundaries. Now, Cassandra uses UDP primarily, but we never tested to find out whether this was a TCP stack issue, IP stack issue, or Ethernet stack issue, so it may be a similar case. Since reassembly still has to happen, if the packets are being transmitted out of order, it makes sense that your write latency
would be significantly higher.
I'd be interested to see the results if you dig deeper into this.
-Jon

On Oct 6, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Igor Katkov wrote:

I think I finally found what. It's implementation of Java NIOon Windows (JVM
1.6.0.16, 64b on Windows 2003)
The very same code, same network but CentOS linux gives almost 4x
performance. (in cassan...@linux -> cassan...@windows setup)
I don't have another linux box to test (cassan...@linux -> cassan...@linux)
performance, but expect it to be even better.

A lesson learnt: don't use windows.

P.S.
Here at Viigo we also learnt the hard way that async IO is also broken in .NET (C#). Now I start to wonder if there is some fundamental flaw in async
IO on windows...

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Jonathan Ellis <jbel...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Igor Katkov <ikat...@gmail.com> wrote:
measured via JMX console i.e. does not include client-cassandra- client
latency

20 client threads 176975b value StorageProxy.WriteLatency ~660ms
10 client threads 176975b value StorageProxy.WriteLatency ~350ms
05 client threads 176975b value StorageProxy.WriteLatency ~156ms

this is going up basically linearly with amount of (data x clients),
so clearly something is getting saturated.





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