My boat came with a CNG stove, but CNG is getting very hard to find in this area. Last year we bought an Origo 3000 on ebay for a pretty good price. We cook a lot on the boat and the mate wanted a 2 burner stove that fit in the same space as the old one. We both like the stove. It is simple and safe. Cooks just as fast as the old CNG. Now I have more space in the lazzeret without that big bottle. Don, #6293, Niceville, FL
David Shugarts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Phil-- I have tried both kinds. The unpressurized Origo does seem safer at first blush, but IMHO it sucks for cooking. And, you get the same kind of fun when people get out the fuel and try to load up the stove under way, etc. An unseen little rivulet of alcohol fuel is hard to notice until you light it. I probably don't have to elaborate on what the pressurized alcohol stoves do, but I just want to say, it seems like everyone learns about it by creating a helluva flare-up. It's kind of a moot point on a C-27 with the owner right there, but I have been on bigger boats with lots of new crew coming and going, and really, I have seen the dance of the flaming curtains, plus plenty of little bonfires we were able to contain. So it has always seemed to me to be an advantage when a system works like it does ashore, not like some kind of space station equipment. Okay, let me flesh out my butane choice. It isn't perfect, by any means, because butane is heavier than air and has all of those issues associated with other such fuels. But, it does have a really strong smell added, so that you would never add a spark source if you suspected a leak. The general idea of the stove I have is seen at: http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Bar-B-Q-90004-Portable-butane/dp/B000E58GB6. When I got one about 5-8 years ago, you could find them for about $26. This one is now $39. To cook, you engage the cartridge with a lever. You flip a little button/switch and it ignites. This is very reliable. Nobody on board can't figure it out. When you're done, you release the lever and the cartridge is no longer connected to the stove. You can get the cartridges at the hardware store. The cartridges are small, meaning not a lot of fuel can get loose, even in the worst case. (Compare this to a large gas cylinder system.) Finally, there's a big drawback (for some people): I have never seen a two-burner model. If you want your eggs with the freshest possible coffee, I guess it's a problem. At the time, you couldn't find any "marine" version of it, but now, there is a Seaward equivalent, at a mere $270: http://www.discountmarinesupplies.com/Stoves_Cooktops-SEAWARD_ONE_BURNER_BUT ANE_STOVE.html. Pretty funny. It has a nice stainless box around it, and a cutting board. Sufficient for a marine discount of 675 percent, eh. Regards, Dave S. On 5/27/08 4:24 PM, "Phil Agur" wrote: > Dave, > > Let me interject you meant a pressurized achohol stove. The Origo > (non-pressurized) is like lighting a candle or oil lamp, curtains still need > to be kept clear but the flame is very predictable. > > Phil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Shugarts" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 12:23 PM > Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Converting Princess stove to Propane > > >> >> >> >> I personally have witnessed about four near-catastrophes when untrained >> people tried to light alcohol stoves (usually in conjunction with curtains >> above the galley), and I yet have never witnessed a gas canister leak. I >> think alcohol stoves are a menace, and a pain to cook with. >> >> IMHO >> >> --Dave S. (Demitri) >> >> PS--The stove I have now uses the canisters of butane for camping. It has >> a >> release lever that allows the stove system to be disconnected from the >> canister when not in use. Push-button ignition, works great, cooks great. >> Cheap as sin. >> >> >> On 5/27/08 2:49 PM, "tim ford" wrote: >> >>> that's weird b/c I've used literally hundreds of small bottles over the >>> last 30 years and >>> never, not even once, had one leak. >>> >>> I've subjected them to untold abuse, left the things unattended in >>> sheds, on neglected propane >>> devices (mainly torches) and in tents and toolboxes and not one bit of >>> trouble. >>> >>> Guess I'm living on borrowed time. >>> >>> But I worry about 500 times more about gasoline spilling out of the O/B >>> when it's stowed below than I do about Prope. >>> Or about the dipsh*t smoking a cigarette at the fuel dock, which I still >>> continue to see about once a season!!!! >>> >>> tf >>> >>> ps....again, I dont suggest storing the big white tanks below, ever. >>> >>> >>> Phil Agur wrote: >>>> I've used these enough camping to know the valves don't always seal. >>> >> >> >
