When you tighten the fore stay, back stay, and upper shrouds the mast want
to flex out of column, like squeezing a flat tooth pick from its ends.
Squeeze too much and snap. 

 

You can see what mast pumping is by squeezing the tooth pick slowly (safety
glasses please) in a C-Clamp and then gently try to move the middle back to
straight. It will act like an over center spring and want to move to
anywhere but straight. Without tensioned lowers the mast acts like the tooth
pick and it wants to be anywhere but straight. Add the forces of sailing
whether it's the roll of the waves or chop or a sail buffeting and these
force at time may move the center of the mast column to ward center where it
doesn't want to stay so instead of loading up cleanly it pumps back and
forth. Let the pumping continue and it can work harden the aluminum at the
flex point leading to failure.

 

The lowers are there to keep the mast in column, although mast tuning for
performance may require an intentional bow known as pre-bend. Even when
pre-bend is used the center of the column is restrained from moving about so
the loads are taken cleanly, without pumping. 

 

Higher performance rigs start using quickly adjustable standing rigging
known as various types of running stays but each adds to the risk of a
demasting, as well as, adding to performance. Your local PHRF authority will
penalize you for the modification, if it is allowed at all. Of course it is
not allowed at all in one-design racing. The factory added adjustable rear
lowers (baby stays) to the Santana 20 design at some point and these appear
were accepted by their one-design rules and the change escaped PHRF scrutiny
but that's an exception.    

 

Phil Agur
<http://www.catalina27.org/public_pages/profile270.htm> s/v Wing Tip
Secretary,                    Call Sign WCW3485
IC27/270A                   MMSI 366901790 
 <http://www.catalina27.org> www.catalina27.org     Vessel Doc# 1039809

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Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 10:42 AM
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Subject: Re: catalina27-talk: Re: Quick Question on Shroud Hook-up Locations

 

Harvey,

 

I was going to ask a question which you may have touched on in your second
paragraph.  Mast pumping.  When I'm sitting on my boat at the dock while
just a moderate breeze blows, the boat occassionally vibrates from the
rigging.  I was wondering if this is normal and if the rigging might be too
tight or loose or out of adjustment.  The standing rigging seems tight, all
shrouds and stays, and the mast stands straight if not for a slight forward
tilt (not noticable unless you hang a plumb bob).  I've gazed at the rigging
while this vibration is happening on several occassions and noticed, I
think, the mast vibrating fore and aft around the spreaders which leads me
to believe the lowers are loose, but they are tight like a violin string.
Is this what you mean by mast pumping?

 

Brad

 

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From: Harvey <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Rosenberg 

To: [email protected] 

Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 7:58 AM

Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: catalina27-talk: Re: Quick Question on Shroud
Hook-up Locations

 

Hi Andy, 
Who is doing the shrouds? Is it George over at Samalot Marine? I can't
believe he would do that.   He must be thinking of Hunter B&R rigs.  Our
mast is not a bendable mast. You can adjust shoud tension and rake, but not
bending it.   It has to stay in column in all four directions. The foreward
shrouds supports this. Leading it aft would put more stress on the leading
edge of the mast when going upwind. 

C-27's are known for their mast pumping at dock in high winds and this would
certainly aggravate this condition. 

Take him on a walk over at the South docks and look at the other C-27's.  . 

Where is your boat. I couldn't find it? 

Regards Harvey Rosenberg C-27TR #6023, 1985 M-18 

Harvey Rosenberg C-27TR    


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To List 

I have a quick question.  I am having the shrouds change on my boat
(....along with a great deal of other work, Boat fell off its stanchions
this past March) and while the marina was setting up the new shrouds,  he
placed the lower forward shroud at the same spot as the upper  shroud.  He
now had the forward lower and the center upper on the same spot where I
thought the upper should be alone, and the stern lower in the correct spot.
I questioned him on this and he said that the center was designed to take
the forward lower shroud and the center shroud and the stern lower shroud
stands alone.  I always though that all three had their on spot for hook-up.
Am I wrong?  The marina guy seemed to be sure of his answer and mentioned
that he has done this hook-up on several Catalina 27's before.  I hope this
explanation makes sense with all the upper and lower words used!!! 

Thanks 

Andy 

Slow "MO" tion #6038 

Nyack, NY 




  


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