On Tuesday, February 19, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Giovanni Bajo wrote:
> What is the benefits of redirects? I think they just hide potential problems, 
> and they still can be exploited by MITM through ssl-stripping. Plus, they 
> cause breakage and/or UX problems in existing tools.
> 
> 

If you do not redirect users to HTTPS you cannot set HSTS until they
manually visit a HTTPS url. The redirect allows an easy way to force
everyone to visit a HTTPS url immediately upon navigating to PyPI.
> 
> 
> Given that they give basically no security, I would suggest their removal 
> until we fix all important issues in all third-party tools. For browsers, 
> since you can still serve HSTS headers even without redirects, we can get it 
> included in Chrome and Firefox builtin HSTS list.
HSTS can only be sent within a HTTPS response w/ a Valid SSL certificate, to
allow otherwise would allow MITM to effectively prevent a user from visiting
a site.
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