On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 1:49 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <m...@egenix.com> wrote:

> On 22.03.2013 11:25, anatoly techtonik wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:14 PM, M.-A. Lemburg <m...@egenix.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 22.03.2013 10:04, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 22 Mar, 2013, at 9:58, anatoly techtonik <techto...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>> Some links are broken. I added redirects for wiki pages, but it will
> be
> >> better to fix links too.
> >>> The OAuth link appears to be broken, and that's likely part of the
> >> fallout of the wiki.python.org breakin.
> >>
> >> It is broken because of Anatoly's renaming.
> >>
> >> The new name is http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyPiOauth
> >>
> >> Anatoly: I don't consider such renaming for some perceived level of
> >> consistency important enough to warrant the breakage you are introducing
> >> to external links. Please don't !
> >>
> >
> > I've renamed PyPIOAuth this long before today and fixed all link on the
> > wiki. I don't have any tools to monitor any external links in MoinMoin.
> It
> > will be nice if you add this request to the internal backlog of tasks for
> > the next order to pydotorg redesign from PSF.
>
> There's no point in adding more work for everyone just because
> you feel there's an inconsistency in naming. It's also quite impossible
> to change all the links on the Internet pointing to our wiki
> pages, even if you knew who to contact.
>

hg clone https://bitbucket.org/loewis/pypi
cd pypi
hg pull https://bitbucket.org/techtonik/pypi-contents
hg push

For changing these links it should be proven that they exist first. Anyway,
I don't want to fix all the links on the internet, but since I've already
fixed those on PyPI, all it takes to apply the fix is to copy/paste these 4
commands into the console. Not much work, really. ;)


> Again: Please don't do this.
>

I think you're not against renaming pages, but against renaming without
redirects. In fact, if MoinMoin could automatically insert #REDIRECT
directives when a page is renamed, then there won't be any problem like
this at all. I hope that pydotorg@ or infrastructure@ have this item on
their feature lists.


OT: Speaking of the links and leaving them as-is. IMHO having a clean
outlook has direct influence on the attractiveness of the project. Having
some obvious stuff to fix on the main page is a motivation for me (as a bad
coder who like to hack) to go download and fix the stuff. But inconsistency
in URL design and nits in overall site image (no credits, no license, no
"fork me on github", strange layout and no solid design, no reference to
framework used in the footer and many more other subjective factors) have
direct influence on desire to contribute from somebody more serious.
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