Whereas features are extremely important in any framework used, speed is still an important thing when you're considering how much hardware to purchase and how you'll be deploying based on your expected load(and god forbid you turned into the next myspace, then it really matters). And yes, hardware is cheaper than developer time, but it's still an expense when you put it on a P&L statement; SOMEONE needs to pay for it, and it's nice if your software minimizes this within reason. So I'm for a benchmark of all these systems. Why not just do a basic benchmark(user hits main page, creates account, log-ins, and logs out), using the most popular ORM and Templating system for each framework, and see what numbers come back?

_Marlon_

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