Just to agree to what has already been decided, I think "incubating" Jeff as a contributor is the way to go, to maintain a good precedent going forward.
And, I can't wait to see his stuff! I am very excited that he wants to be a part of the team :) On 3/24/06, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jeff, > > True, our project is different from a brand new incubating project in > that we have a team and a product. This discussion made this > distinction clear to me, as I kept wondering about how casually > people ask to become a committer on the incubator list ... this of > course would make sense for the *new* new projects. > > See you on Jira. Not sure if you are subscribed to the dev list, > probably a good idea when we start discussing technical issues. > > Cheers, > Andrus > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Jeff Genender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: March 24, 2006 7:18:01 PM GMT+03:00 > > To: Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: Fwd: Committer status for Jeff Genender > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Andrus, > > > > No problem here. My thoughts about the committership were definitely > > not to break the rules of meritocracy, and I surely hope I did not > > give > > that impression. > > > > My thoughts were the opportunity of Apache incubation where w/in that > > time period, you have the ability to add on Apache people to help out > > from a committership perspective. This is a common thing at Apache, > > where when a project comes in through the incubator, other Apache > > committers may show an interest in a project and ask to become a part, > > and you are able to put together a team of Apache and non-Apache > > people. > > So I was really just taking the opportunity to take advantage of this > > time to expedite my ability to help out. > > > > Nevertheless, I am pleased you have such a strong community that cares > > about knowing all of the developers. This is great, so yes, please > > allow me the ability to submit patches and such and earn my way in. I > > think this is the best way to get on board, especially from a > > community > > perspective...and its the Apache way ;-) > > > > Feel free to share this with the rest of the Cayenne team. > > > > Thanks for yours, and your team's consideration..and see you on > > JIRA ;-) > > > > Jeff > > > > Andrus Adamchik wrote: > >> > >> > >> Begin forwarded message: > >> > >>> From: Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Date: March 24, 2006 5:41:21 PM GMT+03:00 > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Re: Committer status for Jeff Genender > >>> > >>> You are right, I have to concede that I started the vote too early > >>> (too eager to get the JPA stuff going I guess :-)). So let's > >>> consider > >>> this a discussion thread, and postpone the vote till we come to some > >>> consensus. > >>> > >>> Basically there is a dilemma that we need to solve. Jeff hasn't > >>> contributed to Cayenne before and thus giving him committer status > >>> right now would be against our normal practice. On the other hand he > >>> volunteered to do work in the very important area, and we should > >>> figure out a good way to do that. > >>> > >>> So while trust my instincts that this cooperation will work out > >>> well, > >>> bending the rules is not a good idea. So maybe start with Jira > >>> patches, and do the committer vote after we learn more about Jeff > >>> and > >>> Jeff learns more about Cayenne?? > >>> > >>> What's everyone's thoughts on that? > >>> > >>> Andrus > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Mar 24, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Kevin Menard wrote: > >>> > >>>> I'm not sure how to word this delicately, so I'll just go bluntly > >>>> instead. > >>>> The problem is that I've never heard of Jeff. Indeed, a quick > >>>> search > >>>> through my local archive of the dev and user lists, going back > >>>> about > >>>> a year, > >>>> show nothing from Jeff at all. So, while he may be very > >>>> qualified, I > >>>> unfortunately have no way to gauge that. Perhaps a mini-bio > >>>> would be > >>>> appropriate. Activity in the Cayenne community would be better. > >>>> > >>>> On the other hand, Andrus has given it his blessing. As Andrus has > >>>> done a > >>>> pretty good job steering the project thus far and he is the primary > >>>> contributor, his endorsement means a lot. > >>>> > >>>> In any event, I'm all for building up relations with other > >>>> projects. > >>>> I just > >>>> don't have enough information to give this a thumbs up. > >>>> > >>>> So for now: > >>>> > >>>> Kevin Menard: -0 (binding) > >>>> > >>>> Although, I'm a pretty open-minded person. If my concerns can be > >>>> addressed > >>>> in a reasonable manner, I have no qualms about changing my vote. > >>>> > >>>> --Kevin > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 3/24/06 7:28 AM, "Andrus Adamchik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> Folks, > >>>>> > >>>>> Jeff Genender asked if he can become a Cayenne committer. He is an > >>>>> Apache committer (OpenEJB and Geronimo) and wants to help us > >>>>> with the > >>>>> JPA effort and integration with Geronimo. IMO it is great that > >>>>> we are > >>>>> finding synergies with Geronimo community, so I am excited > >>>>> about Jeff > >>>>> coming on board. > >>>>> > >>>>> My +1. > >>>>> > >>>>> Andrus > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > > > >
