Excellent message Don and some very true for us who live, and do much of our 
field
work in cell dead areas. Have never had a cell as a result. We've also birded 
here
for almost 30 years now and notice that some of the old locations have grown new
names over the years as young birders come and go. Some of the longer time folks
also have some very unique, and often funny, ways of describing/renaming old
locations.

I hope we all follow your lead.
-- 
John and Sue Gregoire
Field Ornithologists
Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory
5373 Fitzgerald Road
Burdett,NY 14818-9626
N 42 26.611' W 76 45.492'
 Website: http://www.empacc.net/~kestrelhaven/
"Conserve and Create Habitat"

On Wed, February 11, 2015 18:38, Don wrote:
> I certainly empathize with Meena's concern, and nobody wants the reporting
> of locations to get tedious, but I'm hoping there could be a happy medium
> that would be "quick and easy, and more helpful".   In my view there are
> actually many posts over time where the location is frustratingly ambiguous,
> but constantly doing Google searches would be difficult or even impossible.
> Remember that not everyone can afford a smartphone or an unlimited data
> package (in fact, Ithaca has the lowest per-capita income of any city in NYS
>  according to census data).  And some of us live in spots where phone or
> Internet service is very weak or variable. Some on the listserv may simply
> not be as familiar with specific locations as others, or may only consider
> trying to find it if they are given a sense of where in the big picture the
> location may be ("oh, that's near Syracuse, too far away for today" or "oh,
> just N of Lansing--I can do that after work") but still would love to know
> approximately where the good birds are being sighted.
>
> I even read an article recently that said there is currently a noticeable
> uptick in sales of flip-phones (even among young people) not just because of
> cost but because some folks are trying to reclaim time for themselves.  The
> article even suggested that in some circles owning a flip-phone is starting
> to become a status thing!  Maybe Henry David Thoreau would have been a
> flip-phone guy (after, not during, his sojourn to Walden Pond).  But I
> digress.
>
> In the interests of being inclusive, it would be wonderful if more of us
> could at least try to add in some kind of overall orienting reference in
> either the subject line or body of the text, perhaps like "just N of Ovid"
> or "E Hill, Ithaca".  Many people already do this, of course; and thanks!
> Perhaps mentioning the county might only be necessary when there is no
> nearby large town?  (It would be great if there were a button or app that
> would automatically spell out the location in the body of the text (instead
> of, or in addition to, numerical coordinates))!  It should only take a few
> seconds (not sure where it starts to get onerous--perhaps around 10
> seconds?).  It would be much appreciated and would help to make this list
> more "user-friendly" for all!
>
> Thanks to everyone who does report, though!  Great list-serv and amazing
> group of birders!  Bird On!
>
> Don Timmons
> Newfield
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Meena Madhav Haribal
> Date: 2/11/2015 12:24:36 PM
> To: Marty Schlabach;  rwb...@comcast.net;  Carl J. Steckler;  CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Birding information
>
> I guess you all are referring to the earlier posts of owls. If you read the
> title of the message and then the rest of the message itself will give you
> general idea of the locations. Of course the second one was about the
> residence hall, so that must pertain to some college or university. A simple
> Google search would take you to the location! And once you know the location
> then you can deduce the county if you are keeping county list.
>
> I for one who feel that it is too much to write all those information
> requested.
>
> Do some work for yourself as everyone on the list is probably not interested
> in such details J And it is fun to find out new locations. We used to play
> it (finding locations) as a game when we were kids!
>
> Cheers
> Meena
>
>
> From: bounce-118809677-3493...@list.cornell.edu
> [mailto:bounce-118809677-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Marty
> Schlabach
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 12:08 PM
> To: rwb...@comcast.net; Carl J. Steckler; CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Birding information
>
> And even for those still living in the Basin.
> --Marty
> ===========================================
> Marty Schlabach                       m...@cornell.edu
> 8407 Powell Rd.                         home  607-532-3467
> Interlaken, NY 14847               cell        315-521-4315
> ===========================================
>
> From: bounce-118809642-3494...@list.cornell.edu
> [mailto:bounce-118809642-3494...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of
> rwb...@comcast.net
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 12:03 PM
> To: Carl J. Steckler; CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Birding information
>
> Agreed. County, township and common name make the posts more useful to those
> who no longer live in Cayuga basin.
>
> Rob Blye
> East Coventry, Chester County, PA
> CALS 1972
>
>
> Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: c...@cornell.edu
> To: cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu
> Cc:
> Sent: 2015-02-11 11:08:28 GMT
> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Birding information
>
> This may sound a little nit-picky, but when reporting a bird sighting
> could those reporting please give a location and not use local
> references or not so well known initials.
> Some of us flunked Mind Reading 101 (humorous smiley face assumed)
> Thanks
> Carl Steckler
>
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