Sorry for the slow response folks. I've been stuck in the Philly airport due to storm-cancelled flights. Have to fly Philly to Chicago to Elmira and walk home from there because all flights from Philly to Ithaca are full today and tomorrow.
Bottom line re Golden-cheeked Warblers is that there are two competing estimates. The low estimate is from a survey of public lands (Department of Defense -- Fort Hood, other federal lands and state lands). Another estimate, although several years old at this point, surveyed private lands as well as public lands and estimated 10x the number of breeding pairs as the low estimate. This information has been published in peer-reviewed scientific journals, and likely can be found using Google Scholar and searching on Golden-cheeked warbler population estimates. Not trying to encourage or discourage anyone from signing the petition. Just want folks to dig into the background to become more informed before deciding what to do. Take care -- will be in airplanes rest of day and unable to respond any more. Jody Jody W. Enck, PhD Public Engagement in Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2471 From: Dave Nutter<mailto:nutter.d...@me.com> Sent: ?Friday?, ?July? ?10?, ?2015 ?4?:?47? ?AM To: jwe4@cornell. edu<mailto:j...@cornell.edu> Cc: oneidabi...@yahoogroups.com<mailto:oneidabi...@yahoogroups.com>, CAYUGABIRDS-L<mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>, Judith Thurber<mailto:jathur...@yahoo.com> So, Jody, what's the inside scoop on the population of Golden-cheeked Warblers? Does Travis Audubon have it right or wrong? Should they be removed from the Endangered Species list so that their habitat ceases to have protection and is open to development? Were they wrongly placed on the list? Has their situation greatly improved? Who hired your friend? What does he tell the media? --Dave Nutter On Jul 09, 2015, at 10:53 PM, Jody W Enck <j...@cornell.edu> wrote: Hi all, Just a word of caution: petitions are easy to sign without knowing the whole back-story. We've had this discussion several times before about looking into as much information as possible before signing something that may seem emotionally important without access to all the facts. As it turns out, I had dinner last night in Baton Rouge, Louisiana with the biologist who did much of the population survey work on Golden-cheeked Warblers relatively recently. He mentioned the moveon.org<http://moveon.org> petition and how his phone has been ringing off the hook from media inquiries. Please get as much information as you can and become as informed as you can before just signing a petition. Thanks, Jody Jody W. Enck, PhD Public Engagement in Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2471 From: Judith Thurber<mailto:jathur...@yahoo.com> Sent: ?Thursday?, ?July? ?9?, ?2015 ?9?:?59? ?PM To: oneidabi...@yahoogroups.com<mailto:oneidabi...@yahoogroups.com>, CAYUGABIRDS-L<mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu> Do we promote this type of communication here? Well, just in case: https://www.change.org/p/united-states-fish-and-wildlife-service-reject-the-petition-submitted-june-29-2015-to-remove-the-golden-cheeked-warbler-from-the-list-of-endangered-species Judy Thurber Liverpool, NY Sent from my iPad -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> Archives: The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l%40cornell.edu/maillist.html> Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> Archives: The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l%40cornell.edu/maillist.html> Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
