Here are a few more descriptions and links to photos of the Cinnamon Teal at Montezuma. Maybe they include evidence that could help resolve (or instead feed) the hybrid question. One of Mamie Weed’s photos suggests a vaguely crescent-shaped lighter area on the front of the face. Celeste Morien & Willie D’Anna share photos and a description of a red eye, a yellow-orange ankle joint, and a bill larger and perhaps more spatulate than Blue-winged Teal. —Dave Nutter
Cinnamon Teal (Anas cyanoptera) (1) - Reported Nov 02, 2015 13:00 by Mamie Weed - Montezuma NWR--Larue's Lagoon, Seneca, New York - Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8 <http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8>&t=p&z=13&q=42.972376,-76.7378712&ll=42.972376,-76.7378712 - Checklist: http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S25683381 <http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S25683381> - Comments: "Continuing. Possible Blue-winged Teal x Cinnamon Teal hybrid. <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/129037708@N07/22747944515/in/dateposted-public/ <https://www.flickr.com/photos/129037708@N07/22747944515/in/dateposted-public/>" title="Cinnamon Teal"><img src="https://farm1.staticflickr.com/666/22747944515_e58a178257.jpg <https://farm1.staticflickr.com/666/22747944515_e58a178257.jpg>" alt="Cinnamon Teal" /></a> <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/129037708@N07/22747938905/in/dateposted-public/ <https://www.flickr.com/photos/129037708@N07/22747938905/in/dateposted-public/>" title="Cinnamon Teal"><img src="https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5776/22747938905_a90229a373.jpg <https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5776/22747938905_a90229a373.jpg>" alt="Cinnamon Teal" /></a>" Cinnamon Teal (Anas cyanoptera) (1) - Reported Nov 02, 2015 13:34 by Celeste Morien - Montezuma NWR--Larue's Lagoon, Seneca, New York - Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=42.972376,-76.7378712&ll=42.972376,-76.7378712 <http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=42.972376,-76.7378712&ll=42.972376,-76.7378712> - Checklist: http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S25685884 <http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S25685884> - Media: 3 Photos - Comments: "Male teal in transitional cinnamon colored plumage viewed with KOWA 880 scope at 265 yards. Breast, sides and flanks looked uniformly cinnamon at first in scope views, but in different light not so much. Rear flank patch looked lighter in one photo but not in others. Scapulars brown. Tertials brown. Tail dark. Slightly lighter feathering color near bill and in front of eye (showing possibility of hybridization of some degree?) Crown dark or black. Upper wing covert patch light blue with white edge; speculum green below as in BWTE. Primaries black. Eye red, bill black, legs orange-yellow. Bill longer than typical BWTE which looked more spatulate but not to the extreme of NOSH. I forgot to check looking for a thick neck with scope-review of video of bird showed it kept its neck close to body except rarely while we observed for perhaps an hour as the duck would frequently come in and out of view in marsh edges. Sadly, I don't believe any of my photos would add clarity to the hybrid discussion." > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Willie D'Anna and Betsy Potter <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Montezuma Teal details > Date: November 3, 2015 at 8:18:23 PM EST > To: 'Willie D'Anna and Betsy Potter' <[email protected]>, 'Dave > Nutter' <[email protected]> > Cc: 'Sue Barth' <[email protected]>, 'Celeste Morien' > <[email protected]> > > Hi Dave, > > I have posted some of my digiscoped photos of the teal to my Flickr site. > They are not great but may add something to the discussion. One thing I > noticed in my photos that I did not see clearly in the field is that this > bird has a noticeably larger bill than the BWTE next to it. You can also make > out the red iris in some photos, as well as rather bright orange legs at the > joint. > https://www.flickr.com/photos/107683885@N07/ > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/107683885@N07/> > > Feel free to post this to Cayugabirds. Thanks! > > All the best, > Willie > > From: Dave Nutter [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>] > Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 1:39 PM > To: Willie D'Anna and Betsy Potter > Subject: Cinnamon Teal details > > Thanks for noting the eye and leg/foot color, even though it turns out, I > think, that what you saw doesn't decide the hybrid question, unless true > Cinnamon Teals have feet even more yellow than that. > > Also, I think I have found a way to have my posts end up on the archives, or > at least some of them. It's a bit more trouble for me, but this way you can > see if what I say is of interest. > --Dave Nutter -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
