Yes, I believe that is exactly what it means. For example, hunting can involve other implements besides guns. So a no firearms ban is not the same as a no hunting ban.
From: bounce-119905244-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-119905244-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Gary Kohlenberg Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 10:26 AM To: geoklop...@gmail.com; CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] DEC Mixed messages? As I pointed out, in the email I bounced to the list, the 2005 city court challenge upheld the right of NYS to regulate lakeshore activity irrespective of any local ordinance. It concerned dog walkers, but presumably would apply equally to anyone ticketed for hunting. I appreciate the clarity of purpose Jamie’s email from the city provides to our civil servants, I just want people not to automatically assume this is a settled issue. Of course if no hunter complains and the IPD runs people off the south end of the lake then it may be a done deal. Gary From: bounce-119905115-3493...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-119905115-3493...@list.cornell.edu> [mailto:bounce-119905115-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Geo Kloppel Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2015 10:04 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L <cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] DEC Mixed messages? I was curious to know if DEC had made revisions to hunting regulations with respect to jurisdictional conflicts about waterfowl hunting. But DEC websites still seem to be giving waterfowl hunters mixed messages about the validity of local "no hunting" ordinances. For example, on this DEC web page it explicitly says that such ordinances are not valid: http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/40550.html "The State holds the authority to regulate hunting, and no lesser government can usurp that authority. Although "No Hunting" laws are not valid, they may nonetheless be on the books in some municipalities." But on the following DEC page, it says hunters must obey local "no discharge" ordinances: http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/94213.html "It is important that hunters be aware of and obey all State hunting laws, as well as any local discharge ordinances. When using public lands and waters, it is essential that hunters access these areas legally." Can it really be DEC's position that "no hunting" ordinances are not valid, but "no discharge" ordinances are valid? -Geo Kloppel -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> Archives: The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME> Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> Archives: The Mail Archive<http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html> Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds> BirdingOnThe.Net<http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html> Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
