Sibley:
Ravens 24" long
Crows 17.5 " long

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 1:24 PM Sandra J. Kisner <s...@cornell.edu> wrote:

> I suggested raven to her, but it was an awful lot larger.  Is there that
> much difference between crows and ravens?
>
> Sandra
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> From: Donna Lee Scott <d...@cornell.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 12:45 PM
> To: Sandra J. Kisner
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> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] large dark bird
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> Ravens hang around where eagles are, but i am not sure crows would
> tolerate being next to them.
> Kevin McGowan would know.
>
> Donna Scott
> Lansing
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> On Apr 22, 2021, at 12:41 PM, Sandra J. Kisner <s...@cornell.edu<mailto:
> s...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
>
> By appearance the eagle seems more likely than a vulture (the neck was
> short), but would crows tolerate it?  I'll suggest it to her; I don't
> actually know where she lives, so I don't know if bald eagles are likely to
> be in the area.
>
> Sandra
>
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> From: Joshua Snodgrass <cedarsh...@gmail.com<mailto:cedarsh...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2021 12:11 PM
> To: Sandra J. Kisner
> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] large dark bird
>
> Any chance it was a juvenile Bald Eagle? Young birds are very dark, but
> have white markings. It would be huge compared to crows.
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 10:19 AM Sandra J. Kisner <s...@cornell.edu<mailto:
> s...@cornell.edu><mailto:s...@cornell.edu>> wrote:
> I'm afraid I don't have much information to base my question on, but I
> promised I'd try.  A friend showed me a short video on her phone of a group
> of crows that she puts food out for near the end of her long (rural)
> driveway, with a large dark bird apparently feeding with them.  The shot is
> from far away; not knowing that I would have guessed it was a bunch of
> grackles being joined by a crow, but she assures me they are her usual
> crows.  The guest is rather stocky, with a short (broad?) tail.  The crows
> weren't in the least disturbed by the visitor, so it's not likely it was a
> hawk.  At one point she pointed out what looked like a white wing bar (very
> hard to see at that distance).  She also occasionally sees turkeys, but
> this didn't look like a turkey to me.  Any ideas?
>
> Sandra
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