Related to discussion on migratory bird act & lack if protections:
New York has a
“Right to Farm” law.
I have not read it, but it probably would muddy the waters further.

Donna Scott
Lansing
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On Jun 15, 2021, at 8:47 PM, Alicia 
<t...@ottcmail.com<mailto:t...@ottcmail.com>> wrote:

I have zero expertise in this area, but it looks like the courts have at best a 
mixed record in interpreting unintentional negative effects as violations of 
the MBTA. Take a look at this 
summary<https://www.animallaw.info/article/detailed-discussion-migratory-bird-treaty-act>,
 and also this 
one<https://www.crowell.com/files/The-Migratory-Bird-Treaty-Act-An-Overview-Crowell-Moring.pdf>.
 Based on these summaries, it looks like courts are divided on the question of 
whether criminal behavior under the MBTA is limited "to deliberate acts done 
directly and intentionally to migratory birds" or if actions that incidentally 
hurt birds/nests/etc also are covered.

A 43 yr old case from the 2d Circuit, which includes NY,
"affirmed the conviction of a manufacturer of pesticides for migratory bird 
deaths. United States v. FMC Corp., 572 F.2d 902 (2d Cir. 1978). Still the FMC 
court stated misgivings (a “construction that would bring every killing within 
the statute, such as deaths caused by automobiles, airplanes, plate glass 
modern office buildings or picture windows into which birds fly, would offend 
reason and common sense”) and suggested possibly limiting incidental takes to 
“extrahazardous” activities ... ."
 (Entire quote from second summary linked above.)  FWIW, I doubt that a farmer 
cutting hay would be considered engaged in an extra-hazardous activity in a 
legal sense, even though farming itself is a hazardous occupations.

Later cases in other circuits aren't as willing to assign criminal blame when 
the intent was not specifically to harm birds. The 5th Circuit ruled in 2015 
that
we agree with the Eighth and Ninth circuits that a “taking” is limited to 
deliberate acts done directly and intentionally to migratory birds. Our 
conclusion is based on the statute’s text, its common law origin, a comparison 
with other relevant statutes, and rejection of the argument that strict 
liability can change the nature of the necessary illegal act.
Looking at a somewhat similar fact pattern, federal district courts have held 
that timber operations are not criminally liable under the MBTA for felling 
trees when that activity takes out nests, for example in Curry v. U.S. Forest 
Service, 988 F.Supp. 541, 549 (W.D. Pa. 1997); and Mahler v. U.S. Forest 
Service, 927 F. Supp. 1559, 1573-83 (S.D. Ind. 1996).  (Again, I am relying on 
the summaries above and haven't read the cases but the summaries seem 
evenhanded and well done.)

Conclusion?  This is not a clear area of the law.  At some point perhaps the US 
Supreme Court will agree to hear a case and clarify it, but I'm not holding my 
breath that this particular Supreme Court would rule the way we would wish if 
it came before them, particularly if it involves farmers cutting hay rather 
than, say, an oil spill caused by the negligence of a large corporation.

Alicia



On 6/15/2021 6:43 PM, david nicosia wrote:
The MBTA is completely ignored in this case and has been for decades. Why is 
that? Anyone know?

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On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 6:27 PM, Kevin J. McGowan
<k...@cornell.edu><mailto:k...@cornell.edu> wrote:

I don’t think that’s true. Birds, nests, eggs, and their parts all come under 
protection from the MBTA. If feathers are covered, nestlings are covered.



Kevin





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Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.



Young nestling birds aren't protected by the migratory bird act. I guess that 
is true since this has been going on for decades. Wish they were.

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On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 5:33 PM, darlingtonbets

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Good! And let's try to get some publicity into the Ithaca Journal.



Betsy





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From: Nancy Cusumano 
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Date: 6/15/21 4:28 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: "Kenneth V. Rosenberg" <k...@cornell.edu<mailto:k...@cornell.edu>>

Cc: Linda Orkin <wingmagi...@gmail.com<mailto:wingmagi...@gmail.com>>, 
CAYUGABIRDS-L 
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Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.



Ken,



May I use your words in my letters? I think I will go straight to the top with 
this issue.



I will paraphrase...



Nancy



On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 4:07 PM Kenneth V. Rosenberg 
<k...@cornell.edu<mailto:k...@cornell.edu>> wrote:

Linda, thanks for bringing this mowing to everyone’s attention. In a nutshell, 
what is happening today in those fields, repeated over the entire U.S., is the 
primary cause of continued steep declines in Bobolink and other grassland bird 
populations.



Last year, because of the delays in mowing due to Covid, the fields along 
Freeze and Hanshaw Roads were full of nesting birds, including many nesting 
Bobolinks that were actively feeding young in the nests at the end of June. In 
the first week of July, Cornell decided to mow all the fields. Jody Enck and I 
wrote letters and met with several folks at Cornell in the various departments 
in charge of managing those fields (Veterinary College, University Farm 
Services) – although they listened politely to our concerns for the birds, they 
went ahead and mowed that week as dozens of female bobolinks and other birds 
hovered helplessly over the tractors with bills filled food for their 
almost-fledged young.



The same just happened over the past couple of days this year, only at an 
earlier stage in the nesting cycle – most birds probably have (had) recently 
hatched young in the nest. While mowing is occurring across the entire region 
as part of “normal” agricultural practices (with continued devastating 
consequences for field-nesting birds), the question is whether Cornell 
University needs to be contributing to this demise, while ostensibly supporting 
biodiversity conservation through other unrelated programs. Jody and I 
presented an alternative vision, where the considerable acres of fields owned 
by the university across Tompkins County could serve as a model for conserving 
populations of grassland birds, pollinators, and other biodiversity, but the 
people in charge of this management were not very interested in these options.



And there we have it, a microcosm of the continental demise of grassland birds 
playing out in our own backyard, illustrating the extreme challenges of modern 
Ag practices that are totally incompatible with healthy bird populations. I 
urge CayugaBirders to make as much noise as possible, and maybe someone will 
listen.



KEN



Ken Rosenberg (he/him/his)

Applied Conservation Scientist

Cornell Lab of Ornithology

American Bird Conservancy

Fellow, Atkinson Center for a Sustainable Future

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Wk: 607-254-2412

Cell: 607-342-4594





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Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 3:02 PM
To: CAYUGABIRDS-L 
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Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Fields being mowed.

After a couple year hiatus in which the Freese Road fields across from the 
gardens have been mowed late in the season allowing at least Bobolinks to be 
done with their nesting and for grassland birds to be lured into a false 
feeling of security so they have returned and I’ve counted three singing 
meadowlarks for the first time in years, Cornell has returned to early mowing 
there as of today. And so the mayhem ensues. How many more multitudes of birds 
will die before we believe our own eyes and ears. Mow the grass while it’s 
still nutritious but are we paying attention to who is being fed. Grass taken 
from the land to pass through animals and in that inefficient process turning 
to food for humans.

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Ithaca NY
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