Dear Ziad indeed it is totally unfair to say that the Jordanian licenses have not been approved for "personal issues" with me and Diane, you know very well that this is not true, that we all came all the way to Jordan, even Joi was there, to launch the licenses but this was not possible due to the fact that the licenses were not complying with the standards required ,that all the other jurisdictions are respecting It`s not fair from a professional like you are, Ziad, to talk about private issues when you know very well that this was an issue totally related to the professional quality of the work, and that we all did our best to launch the license and even organized a very official event in Amman Anyway, I will leave this to Diane to explain why the licenses have not met the required standards, she will be at the call tonight and she can answer to any question You are welcome to join the discussion tonight if you have anything to say, but please remember the main topic is the Egyptian licenses, not the Jordanian ones, although of course the Egyptian team has built on your work, and we have all acknowledged that
best dona On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Ziad Maraqa <[email protected]> wrote: > Dona, > > You should be honest with Arab community and say that CC Jordan has > submitted the licenses and respected the deadline that was suggested by > Diane to Rami but she didn't allow us to launch the Jordanian licenses > because of personal issues with you and her. > > We have provided CC Egypt with the 6 Jordanian Arabic licenses for more > than three years. We have no idea what was going on in relation to the > Egyptian licenses and why only certain people are in the circle although > this should be a transparent and open communication project for all Arab > lawyers before you have posted the Egyptian licenses today. > > There is no need to mention anything about me and Rami in a brief email > just saying that we didn't forget you and acknowledge your efforts (very > weird). You refer to us in the email as the people from Jordan as we have > never worked with you before but you usually refer to any people as CC > jurisdiction even in the countries where no local project has been > established. > > CC Jordan was the first jurisdiction that drafted and submitted the Arab > licenses. We expected to recognize and acknowledge our efforts not be > treated in such a way especially because we are professional lawyers and we > are doing this for free. > > I expect from all the Arab people to read and compare the attached > Jordanian licenses and forward it to anyone interested to see that we have > finalized the licenses and done the work in a professional way. > > There is no need to reply. This email is an explanation of some issues > that I needed to say. As a lawyer, I am always saying the truth even if > people might feel embarrassed or disagree. > > Ziad Maraqa > ---- Forwarded Message ----- > *From:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Friday, 3 May 2013 10:26 AM > *Subject:* [cc-arab-world] Re: Egyptian licenses ready/community call > > Hi everybody > looking forward to this call later today > Here you are the links to the Egyptian licenses > > BY: http://creativecommons.org/lic > enses/by/3.0/eg/legalcode<http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/eg/legalcode> > BY NC: http://creativecommons.org/lic > enses/by-nc/3.0/eg/legalcode<http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/eg/legalcode> > BY NC SA: http://creativecommons.org/lic enses/by-nc-sa/3.0/eg/legalcod > e<http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/eg/legalcode> > BY NC ND: http://creativecommons.org/lic enses/by-nc-nd/3.0/eg/legalcod > e<http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/eg/legalcode> > BY ND: http://creativecommons.org/lic > enses/by-nd/3.0/eg/legalcode<http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/3.0/eg/legalcode> > BY SA: http://creativecommons.org/lic > enses/by-sa/3.0/eg/legalcode<http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/eg/legalcode> > > best > dona > > On Monday, April 29, 2013 9:33:08 AM UTC+2, [email protected]: > > Salam everybody > there is a great news: finally the Egyptian licenses are ready to go live! > We owe a big thank to Hala and her team, and to Mohamed and Pierre who have > helped review the licenses, and of course to Rami and Ziad from Jordan, on > whose work the Egyptian team has built on in order to move forward the > Egyptian porting > Since this is a very important step for CC communities in the Arab world > and since I know there is a lot of interest -and of questions, of course- > concerning this topic and the various steps we have gone through to have > these licenses ready, I would like to discuss all this in a community call > as soon as possible before we give any official announcement about the > porting > Somebody from HQ, probably Diane Peters, our general counsel, and Aurelia > who has been working on the review together with Hala, would like to join > the call, make an intro and answer to your questions concerning the porting > process from the HQ perspective > Then Hala can explain the licenses and the adaptation process more in > details, and I will ask her to do this in Arabic so everybody can get a > better sense of the work > Then we can have a discussion all together, we`ll use both English and > Arabic since HQ people will be there and unfortunately dont understand > Arabic > This is a Doodle we have put together, apologies for the short notice but > we are aiming at doing this as soon as possible inshallah http://doodle.com/ > 6fypcs524r956hxeh625h6h6/ > admin?#table<http://doodle.com/6fypcs524r956hxeh625h6h6/admin?#table> > Looking forward to your feedback > best > dona > > > -- > لقد تلقيت هذه الرسالة لأنك مشترك في المجموعة "CC Arab World المشاع > الإبداعي" من مجموعات Google. > لإلغاء اشتراكك في هذه المجموعة وإيقاف تلقي رسائل إلكترونية منها، أرسِل > رسالة إلكترونية إلى [email protected]. > للنشر في هذه المجموعة، أرسل بريدًا إلكترونيًا إلى > [email protected] > انتقل إلى هذه المجموعة على > http://groups.google.com/group/cc-arab-world?hl=ar. > للمزيد من الخيارات، انتقل إلى https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > -- > لقد تلقيت هذه الرسالة لأنك مشترك في المجموعة "CC Arab World المشاع > الإبداعي" من مجموعات Google. > لإلغاء اشتراكك في هذه المجموعة وإيقاف تلقي رسائل إلكترونية منها، أرسِل > رسالة إلكترونية إلى [email protected]. > للنشر في هذه المجموعة، أرسل بريدًا إلكترونيًا إلى > [email protected] > انتقل إلى هذه المجموعة على > http://groups.google.com/group/cc-arab-world?hl=ar. > للمزيد من الخيارات، انتقل إلى https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- لقد تلقيت هذه الرسالة لأنك مشترك في المجموعة "CC Arab World المشاع الإبداعي" من مجموعات Google. لإلغاء اشتراكك في هذه المجموعة وإيقاف تلقي رسائل إلكترونية منها، أرسِل رسالة إلكترونية إلى [email protected]. للنشر في هذه المجموعة، أرسل بريدًا إلكترونيًا إلى [email protected] انتقل إلى هذه المجموعة على http://groups.google.com/group/cc-arab-world?hl=ar. للمزيد من الخيارات، انتقل إلى https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
