Thanks marvin. It was very helpful. In fact it explained the situation
very well.

Thanks
Suresh

On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 8:30 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Language will always be an issue with the CCIE lab.  You should get in the
> habit of thinking through different ways that sections could be configured,
> and be ready to ask the proctor for clarification.
>
> Let me clarify the section a different way.
>
> I misread the section in my quick reply earlier, this is referring to the
> external peering to R6, not the internal peering.
>
> With a single peering statement between R5 and R6, there are a few
> possibilities.
> 1.  Peer between the Ethernet networks.
> 2.  Peer between the frame networks.
> 3.  Peer between loopbacks.
>
> Peering between loopbacks will be the most stable, because the loss of a
> physical interface would not stop the peering from forming.
>
> Rather that stating "the peering should be as stable as possible", the
> section could have been written as:
> "ensure that the peering is still up even if a physical interface fails on
> R5 or R6"
> "do not peer between physical interfaces"
> "peer between loopback interfaces"
>
> As a CCIE candidate, it is CRITICAL to understand different methods that the
> same task can be worded.  Throughout the workbook, tasks are written in
> different methods on purpose to highlight this.  Given the three choices
> above, the statement asking for stability eliminates the first two, leaving
> the third as the valid option.  In this case, the extra wording asking for
> stability is there as a hint as to which method is correct for the section,
> and which ones are not.
>
>
>
>
>
> Marvin Greenlee, CCIE #12237 (R&S, SP, Sec)
> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
> Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Progress or excuses, which one are you making?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Suresh Mishra [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 7:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: OSL CCIE Routing and Switching Lab Exam
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Vol2 -LAB8 - BGP task 4.1
>
> I got your point. In that sense all the peering statements are single
> only. But the point is why to state "single peering statement" as a
> requirement to achive the stability.
>
> Its more of a lanuage issue then putting the technical point in
> perspective. I think the laguage has to be tuned correctly to avoid
> the confusion.
>
> Thanks
> Suresh
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 5:38 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> "Neighbor x.x.x.x remote-as yyy" is a peering statement.  If you are
> unclear
>> as what the proctor considers a "peering statement", that would be time to
>> get clarification.
>>
>> I would not consider setting route-maps, distribute-lists, update source,
> or
>> ebgp multihop as "peering statements"
>>
>> With multiple paths in the network, loopback peering will provide more
>> stability.
>>
>> The point of the section is to get you to not use a full mesh for the ibgp
>> peerings.
>>
>>
>> Marvin Greenlee, CCIE #12237 (R&S, SP, Sec)
>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>> Mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Progress or excuses, which one are you making?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suresh Mishra
>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:56 PM
>> To: OSL CCIE Routing and Switching Lab Exam
>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Vol2 -LAB8 - BGP task 4.1
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> There is question in this section that says "Configure R5 to peer to
>> R6. Use single peering statement. This peering should be as stable as
>> possible".
>>
>> The answer to this question in the proctor guide has peering
>> configured between the loopback addresses of the  two ebgp peers which
>> requires three statements.
>>
>>  I think that should be changed to include one statement by using the
>> physical link addresses between the two peers or change the question
>> to not have the requirement of stable connection.
>>
>> If there is a need for stable connection then we need to remove the
>> restriction of single statement as it is possible to peer in a single
>> statement in BGP using direct link addresses.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Suresh
>>
>>
>
>

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