Dear Manouchehr, In my opinion owning the equipment is the best way to go, especially if you couple it with Dynamips. I cannot tell you how much my confidence has increased since doing the research, ordering the equipment, buying additional memory, mounting kits, cables, and network modules and then connecting it all together. Look at it like pre-CCIE level work which can be used during interviews and job solicitations. There are two types of CCIEs, there is the one that has the cert and works at an ISP or NOC and just remotes in the work on equipment but in actuality has little experience with real equipment and then there is the CCIE that touches the equipment and feels very comfortable with it. S/He is the one that can build a network inside and out, then do the monitoring later. In my opinion, the latter will go farther in his/her career because of familiarity with the equipment, it is theirs, they own it and that experience cannot be gotten any other way. Buying rack time will not give you the true hands on of owning the real equipment, opening it up for upgrades, connecting it together, it just won't. Having the equipment on the other hand will and you can put it on your resume everything. I am telling you it really impresses people when you tell them that you have a home lab because it takes work, time and money to do. There are so many options out there to buy from eBay and you can start out with the cheaper items to give you motivation which will ultimately build your momentum (e.g., BB routers [2501s], Frame-Relay switch [2522/3], Access server [2511]). Internetwork Expert (my apologies to die-hard IP Expert fans!) has a great document that recommends a lab and tells you which alternates devices to use instead of the really expensive Cisco-recommended ones. It even tells you how much memory they will need and which IOS to use. http://www.internetworkexpert.com/resources/ccierack.htm It was devised prior to the new exam changes, but they said they will update it soon to reflect the new requirements but stated that at most the only changes will probably be to swap the three 3640 routers for three 1841s. And the switches will be two 3560s and two 3550s. To take it a step further, CBT Nuggets's Jeremy Cioara has a great CCIE Lab video series (2 videos) which he takes you step by step on how to build a home CCIE lab, and then configure one. Now with Dynamips, in case you don't know, you should have at least 4GB of DRAM, and in my opinion rather that use the preconfigured ones from IP Expert, or anyone else, build the entire lab yourself using the software. Again I cannot tell you how much this helps in really understanding how an internetwork works, not to mention how much your confidence will increase. Because again, in the real world, there are companies like OPNET that use a similar type, but much better software to create scenarios and simulated test environments for clients. Therefore, building the lab from scratch on Dynamips will be a great learning experience that can help you should you every have to do it on one of these special types of applications. What’s more it will give you good experience in building a lab and configuring it yourself from scratch. Good luck and live with PASSION!
--- On Tue, 6/2/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] FW: FW: CCIE_R&S_with_Dynamips,,, To: "MANNY Omari" <[email protected]> Cc: "ccie rs" <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 8:47 AM #yiv1922730059 {height:100%;color:#000000;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial;} You might want to consider renting Proctorlabs rack time. The racks have all the current hardware and you can buy 10 - 25 -50 or 100 sessions at a discount. Each session gives you about 8 hours of rack time. Building a lab with 2800, 3800, 3560's can be very expensive, I think rack rental in addition to your Dynamips is the way to go. -Matt ----- Original Message ----- From: MANNY Omari To: ccie rs Sent: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] FW: FW: CCIE_R&S_with_Dynamips,,, Hello Dears, Still waiting for your kind help with the below issue, How many Routers and Switches do i need? which model? and what else? Your kindly cooperation will be highly appreciated Best Regards From: [email protected] To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_RS] FW: CCIE_R&S_with_Dynamips,,, Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:01:35 +0430 Hello, Thanks for reply, Can you please let me know how many Routers and Switches and what models do i need? and what else do i need for the CCIE R&S v4? As I'm not rich too Best Regards From: [email protected] To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: RE: [OSL | CCIE_RS] FW: CCIE_R&S_with_Dynamips,,, Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 10:22:43 +0400 Hi, It’s depends upon your capabilities. If you own the hardware you will passJ. by hard practicing. Cheers Raja From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MANNY Omari Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] FW: CCIE_R&S_with_Dynamips,,, Hello dears, Still waiting for your kind advice.... Best Regards From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: CCIE_R&S_with_Dynamips,,, Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 11:38:19 +0430 Hello dear respected CCIEs, Does anyone can let me know if i can do my CCIE R&S v4 with Dynamips only or i need to buy some hardwares?, I have no idea. Looking for your kind helps. Best Regards Manouchehr Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! See all the ways you can stay connected to friends and family Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out!
