Hi Again everyone,

  I couldnt let this issue go, so I decided to do some more testing 
(Again please feel free to test it out to confirm). I tried to create a 
SPAN session to capture data through the trunk link to see what data ran 
on what vlan. Had a hard time getting the NIC of my monitor host not to 
discard the vlan tagged frames. In the end i created a trunk between a 
Linux workstation and a 3560 switch. Again, i set the native vlan to 
250, i only allowed vlan 200 on the trunk.. My findings are this:

  - CDP runs on vlan 1, no matter what.
  - STP runs on the vlan on which the instance is at.. Ie.. STP for vlan 
200, runs on vlan 200.
  - VTP runs on vlan 1, no matter what.
  - DTP is pretty confusing, since im not getting any tagged frames, so 
I cant tell how its working.

  Anyways.. i got the wireshark cap file if anyone wants to take a look 
at it.

Hope its of value to someone else as well..

Sincerely,
Kim Pedersen

Wouter Prins wrote:
> Hi Kim,
>
> Here's what i have in my notes (i debugged this four months ago 
> :)): vlan 1 will still be used for control traffic (cdp, vtp, dtp) if 
> you prune it off the trunk. STP will not work for vlan 1 if you prune 
> vlan 1 from the trunk.
>
> 2009/8/20 Kim Pedersen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>
>     Hi Ken,
>
>      But that begs the question, when i state that native vlan should be
>     250 on a certain trunk, but i dont allow that on the trunk (switchport
>     trunk allow vlan 200), to allow only another vlan (200), how does cdp
>     function? (lab shows that it still finds neighbor devices).
>
>     Kim
>
>     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>     > Hi Kim,
>     > CDP along with VTP & STP was transported by vlan 1. Vlan 1 need not
>     > necessary be the native vlan.
>     >
>     > Kengyong
>     > CCIE #24979
>     >
>     >
>     >> Hi All,
>     >>
>     >>   I have a question regarding the native vlan in dot1q. Frames
>     comming
>     >> from the vlan that is choosen as the native vlan is not tagged
>     across
>     >> the trunk. I can manually set the native vlan to be, say 200. I
>     can then
>     >> also say that i only want to allow vlan 250 to cross the trunk.
>     I was
>     >> under the impression that stuff like CDP used the native vlan
>     across
>     >> trunks, but if it is manually pruned (by not allowing it), why
>     does it
>     >> still work?
>     >>
>     >>   Am I wrong in that CDP does not use the native vlan?
>     >>
>     >>   What I was trying to do was to follow Cisco's guidelines as
>     to not use
>     >> the native vlan 1. However, since VTP cant prune vlan 1, I was
>     doing it
>     >> manually and came up with this thought...
>     >>
>     >>   Hopefully someone can clear it up for me.
>     >>
>     >> Thanks
>     >>
>     >> Sincerely,
>     >> Kim Pedersen
>     >>
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