Wendell's blog said exactly what I was thinking about the OEQ. You
could be extremely well prepared but get an unlucky draw of questions
and then you're screwed.
The next thing I was particularly curious about was the open-ended
question section. Frankly, I'm a Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde on this one.
Wendell the cert guy looked at my open ended questions, and asked
himself: "If I was truly prepared for the lab, would these questions
be a problem?" Absolutely not. As a guy who has an interest in seeing
Cisco certs thrive, I see the open-ended questions for what Cisco
claims them to be - a cheating prevention tool. However, Wendell the
imaginary CCIE R/S lab candidate says that the whole idea scares me to
death, and may be too unfair to use as a cheating prevention tool. If
I had been taking the lab on my nickel for real, rather than just
kicking the tires, I would've been pysched out by the open-ended
questions. You could get an unlucky draw of questions and get sent
home. For real CCIE R/S candidates, I think this means that you don't
get ready for 70% of the topics, and go take the lab to experience it
- you may not get past the questions. However, from what I saw, and
from other discussions, I think if you're ready for all aspects of the
lab, you'll be ready for the open-ended stuff. It's just a little scary.
On Oct 20, 2009, at 5:06 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]
> wrote:
To anyone interested in reading the blog post. Pretty interesting,
actually.
https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/thread/8262
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark
Holloway
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:51 AM
To: Rick Mur
Cc: CCIE_RS OnlineStudyList
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] OEQ
There was an old blog post by a Cisco employee who sat the beta lab
exam
V4 and she said there was no physical book when you sit for the V4
lab.
Everything was on the computer screen including the lab diagram. She
recommended drawing the diagram on paper otherwise it was distracting
flipping between the lab diagram and the SecureCRT windows. Does
anyone
know if Cisco kept it this way or are they providing the workbook
during
the V4 lab exam?
On Oct 18, 2009, at 2:35 AM, Rick Mur wrote:
Indeed the troubleshooting section will run on IOU. This is
Cisco's internal simulation software, that's been around a long time,
much longer than Dynamips (I wonder why people always call it GNS3, as
that's just a GUI :-P). IOU is used within Advanced Services to
simulate
a customers network as it's too expensive to spend a lot of time
building a separate lab for each customer over and over again.
For now there are no switching scenario's in the troubleshooting
section, although there are things going on at Cisco in terms of
virtualizing many more things than just the router IOS, so I
wouldn't be
surprised that switches are added quite soon. Therefore we keep
teaching
our students to do troubleshooting on switches and we included layer 2
stuff in our troubleshooting labs!
--
Regards,
Rick Mur
CCIE2 #21946 (R&S / Service Provider)
Sr. Support Engineer - IPexpert, Inc.
URL: http://www.IPexpert.com <http://www.IPexpert.com/>
On 16 okt 2009, at 03:25, Dale Shaw wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 11:30 AM, nicholas golden
<[email protected]> wrote:
I didn't know that about the troubleshooting
section, so it's virtual as in like a simulator? I wonder how
complicated it will get, I know when I did the CCNA/CCNP recently the
scenarios were not that complex just due to software limitations.
Topologies of up to 30 routers.
Routers are virtual, running IOU (IOS On UNIX).
No Catalyst-based switching.
cheers,
Dale
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