Hey Nick,

yeah pretty cool huh?  You will see this in volume 1 workbook : )

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:56 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> Whoa now THAT was cool joe, I didn't know that! Sweet!
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Astorino <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 02:13:46
> To: Taqdir Singh<[email protected]>
> Cc: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] MPLS VPNS - Why to send updates at first place ?
>
> That is just how BGP functions my friend : )  Now, you COULD configure
> something known as outbound route filtering (ORF) to take care of this
> problem.  With ORF basically what happens is you configure an inbound
> prefix-list on a remote PE router that decides what routes you would
> like to get.  Then you configure the same router to SEND that
> prefix-list to the other side.  The other side is configured to
> receive this prefix-list.  When this happens, the other side will only
> in turn send to you the prefixes you want to receive.  So, you are
> essentially telling your upstream router what to send and not send to
> you.
>
> Check this out:
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_2t/12_2t11/feature/guide/ft11borf.html#wp1048417
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:03 AM, Taqdir Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi Bryan :
>>>
>>> Thanks for replly.
>>>
>>> But my question was different.
>>
>> You can assume P routers in between to all PE routers
>>
>>    My question was why would PE1 send all the route updates of all customers
>> to PE2 at first place if   through PE2 doesnt have those customers but only
>> have single customer ?
>>
>> why we are wasting the CPU and bandwidth resources for those routing updates
>> which even PE2 doesnt need them .
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Bryan Bartik <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Taqdir,
>>>>
>>>> That is not a typical MPLS VPN topology. There is usually P routers
>>>> involved that connect the PE routers, and there is usually more than one
>>>> path between respective PE loopbacks.
>>>>
>>>> Also, MPBGP is just like normal BGP. You need some a full mesh among
>>>> peers, route reflection or confederations to satisfy the reachability 
>>>> issues
>>>> you mention.
>>>>
>>>> Even if PE1 link to PE3 failed, are their loopbacks not in OSPF? Can you
>>>> not set up an MP-BGP session between them?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Taqdir Singh <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Friends
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a scenario here for MPLS VPNS, please see attached diagram
>>>>>
>>>>> Suppose we have so many customers connected on PE1 with RT of 1:1, 2:2,
>>>>> 3:3 ..... each RT related to separated customer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now on my PE2 router only one customer is connected with RT of 1:1.,
>>>>> Remaining all other remote customer sites are connected on PE3 with RT 
>>>>> 2:2,
>>>>> 3:3....etc
>>>>>
>>>>> So now when MPBGP on PE1 will send updates, it will send updates of all
>>>>> customers routes to PE2 and PE2 will ignore those routes not matching its
>>>>> RT.
>>>>>
>>>>> So question, here is why PE1 would send all updates to PE2 at first
>>>>> place, why would I waste my bandwidth ?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2nd Question
>>>>>
>>>>> If link between PE1 and PE3 fails, then I want all the updates that PE3
>>>>> was getting to come via PE2'
>>>>>
>>>>> is this possible ?
>>>>>
>>>>> hope my question is a valid question
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> TAQDIR SINGH
>>>>> Network Engineering Professional
>>>>> (+91) 991.170.9496 | (+91) 801.041.5988
>>>>>
>>>>> One who asks is a fool for a moment, one who doesn't ask remains fool
>>>>> for ever
>>>>>
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>>>>> please visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bryan Bartik
>>>> CCIE #23707 (R&S, SP), CCNP
>>>> Sr. Support Engineer - IPexpert, Inc.
>>>> URL: http://www.IPexpert.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> TAQDIR SINGH
>>> Network Engineering
>>> (+91) 991.170.9496 | (+91) 801.041.5988
>>>
>>> One who asks is a fool for a moment, one who doesn't ask remains fool for
>>> ever
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> TAQDIR SINGH
>> Network Engineering
>> (+91) 991.170.9496 | (+91) 801.041.5988
>>
>> One who asks is a fool for a moment, one who doesn't ask remains fool for
>> ever
>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
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>
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Security & Service Provider) Certification Training with locations
throughout the United States, Europe and Australia. Be sure to check
out our online communities at www.ipexpert.com/communities and our
public website at www.ipexpert.com
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