I just did this lab yesterday and didn't have any built-in issues with the
frame relay links. If I were in that situation I would probably revert the
rack, not load any configs and see if I could get the frame links working
that way. If you can't get them working that way and you're confident your
base frame config should work it could certainly be a hardware issue.


On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Don Pezet <[email protected]> wrote:

> Good afternoon everyone,
>
> I had an interesting issue creep up today while I was studying Multicast
> routing using ProctorLabs this morning. I was working on IPExpert Lab
> Preparation Workbook Vol. 1 Lab 25 for the v4.0 blueprint (the workbook is
> actually version 11.0). I skipped my normal pattern and didn't verify
> network connectivity before starting because I had done this lab before and
> I knew there were no sneaky layer 2 or layer 3 problems hidden in waiting.
> I
> was almost through the lab when I noticed that my frame-relay interfaces
> between R2, R4 and R6 were not up. I was on Task 25.5b when I noticed that
> MSDP wasn't peering up between R2 and R6. I did a quick examination and
> noticed that the serial interfaces themselves were down. I went ahead and
> finished the lab (I only had one more task left) and then set about
> troubleshooting the frame-relay connection. I am pretty comfortable with
> frame-relay, but what I found stumped me. After troubleshooting a bit, I
> determined that it looked like a hardware issue. I was a little nervous
> about this, as every time I have heard of someone saying they found a
> hardware issue when it comes to CCIE labs they have turned out wrong. So, I
> backed up my configs, reverted my entire pod and reloaded the Vol. 1 Lab 25
> initial configs over again. Well, the problem was still there. At this
> point, I opened up a ticket with after hours support, and they assured me
> it
> was a configuration issue. I did some more troubleshooting and with a
> little
> trepidation I went back to them again. They said they would escalate the
> problem to Tier 2 on Monday, but for now, I was stuck. They suggested I
> post
> my problem to the OSL and see what you guys think. Any help on this is much
> appreciated. I'll post the data from one of my routers and see what we can
> find. Here is the troubleshooting information I gathered for R2, although
> the problem existed on R4 and R6 identically.
>
> On R2, my Serial0/1/0 interface was configured as follows (straight from
> the
> initial configs):
>
> interface Serial0/1/0
>  no ip address
>  encapsulation frame-relay
>  no arp frame-relay
>  no frame-relay inverse-arp
>  frame-relay lmi-type cisco
> !
> interface Serial0/1/0.24 point-to-point
>  ip address 150.50.24.2 255.255.255.252
>  frame-relay interface-dlci 204
> !
> interface Serial0/1/0.26 point-to-point
>  ip address 150.50.26.2 255.255.255.252
>  frame-relay interface-dlci 206
> !
>
> If you would like the whole config, you can look at either the initial or
> final configs from Lab 25 as I had the same symptoms under both.
>
> Here's the output from "show interface s0/1/0"
>
> Serial0/1/0 is down, line protocol is down
>  Hardware is GT96K Serial
>  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit/sec, DLY 20000 usec,
>     reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
>  Encapsulation FRAME-RELAY, loopback not set
>  Keepalive set (10 sec)
>  CRC checking enabled
>  LMI enq sent  0, LMI stat recvd 0, LMI upd recvd 0, DTE LMI down
>  LMI enq recvd 0, LMI stat sent  0, LMI upd sent  0
>  LMI DLCI 1023  LMI type is CISCO  frame relay DTE
>  FR SVC disabled, LAPF state down
>  Broadcast queue 0/64, broadcasts sent/dropped 0/0, interface broadcasts 0
>  Last input never, output never, output hang never
>  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 01:16:33
>  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
>  Queueing strategy: weighted fair
>  Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
>     Conversations  0/0/256 (active/max active/max total)
>     Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
>     Available Bandwidth 1158 kilobits/sec
>  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
>     0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
>     Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
>     0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
>     0 packets output, 0 bytes, 0 underruns
>     0 output errors, 0 collisions, 4 interface resets
>     0 unknown protocol drops
>     0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
>     0 carrier transitions
>     DCD=down  DSR=down  DTR=up  RTS=up  CTS=down
>
> You'll notice that the line is down/down. Now, even if my config was
> completely wrong and I had done something silly like configured the
> interface for PPP it should still show as up/down right? This was what got
> me thinking that this was a hardware issue. You'll also notice "DTE LMI
> down" which isn't a good thing. This meant that I wasn't even communicating
> with the frame-relay switch. So, I fired up debug and took a look at what
> was going on. I turned on debugging for frame-relay packet, frame-relay lmi
> and frame-relay detailed. I think shutdown the s0/1/0 interface and brought
> it back up again. Here is what I got:
>
> Feb 26 17:30:45.959: Serial0/1/0.24: encaps failed--line down
> Feb 26 17:30:45.959: Serial0/1/0.26: encaps failed--line down
>
> That's it. Just those two lines. Well, you can't see a frame-relay switch
> over an interface that is down so I double checked R4 and R6 and they were
> identical. The odds of having all three routers with a serial port failure
> was too unlikely, so I started looking to the frame-relay switch side of
> things. The next thing I looked at was "show frame-relay lmi" whose output
> follows:
>
> LMI Statistics for interface Serial0/1/0 (Frame Relay DTE) LMI TYPE = CISCO
>  Invalid Unnumbered info 0             Invalid Prot Disc 0
>  Invalid dummy Call Ref 0              Invalid Msg Type 0
>  Invalid Status Message 0              Invalid Lock Shift 0
>  Invalid Information ID 0              Invalid Report IE Len 0
>  Invalid Report Request 0              Invalid Keep IE Len 0
>  Num Status Enq. Sent 0                Num Status msgs Rcvd 0
>  Num Update Status Rcvd 0              Num Status Timeouts 0
>  Last Full Status Req never            Last Full Status Rcvd never
>
> That definitely didn't look good. 0 messages of any sort had been sent,
> good
> or bad. This is what I would expect to see on a router that had absolutely
> nothing plugged into the serial port. So, that's what I checked next with
> "show controller s0/1/0"
>
> Interface Serial0/1/0
> Hardware is GT96K
> DTE V.35 clocks stopped.
> idb at 0x686DC3CC, driver data structure at 0x686DD908
> wic_info 0x686DDF2C
> Physical Port 3, SCC Num 3
> <output omitted>
>
> I cut this one short for the e-mail because the relevant part is right up
> top: DTE V.35 clocks stopped. That's when I decided this had to be an error
> with the frame-relay switch. I could see that a cable was present, but I
> wasn't receiving any clock signaling from the switch. I used the web
> interface for ProctorLabs to power cycle the frame-relay switch, but that
> didn't make any difference. I couldn't even tell whether or not it had
> rebooted since my routers couldn't even detect the frame-relay switch at
> layer 1. That's all I could do since we don't have access to the
> frame-relay
> switch for troubleshooting. So I double checked everything again, and then
> opened up an after hours support ticket, which is what led me to here.
>
> I think I've done my due diligence on this one, but do you guys see
> anything
> I missed? Can you think of something that might cause this? If I had to
> guess, I would say that the frame-relay switch was actually powered off,
> however support assures me it is on and operational. Any thoughts, input,
> ideas, or criticism on my troubleshooting are appreciated. Problems like
> these are simply another opportunity to learn.
>
> Thanks everyone,
>
> Don Pezet
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