Once again Congratulation to Jay., your name also reminds me of song " Jay
hooo, jai hooo"
Could share the detail of books you preferred for your CCIE ?

Cheers
Sandy


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> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:26:34 +1000
> From: Adam Booth <[email protected]>
> To: Jay Taylor <[email protected]>
> Cc: OSL Routing and Switching <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Congratulations to Jay Taylor, CCIE
>        #28391
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> Nice work Jay!  I enjoy hearing about people passing, it gives that extra
> bit of inspiration to my own studies.
>
> I hope you are able to have a nice break after your efforts!
>
> Cheers,
> Adam
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Roy Waterman <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > Congratulations!!
> >
> >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] [mailto:
> > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Di Bias, Steve
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 6:20 PM
> > > To: Jay Taylor; Marko Milivojevic
> > > Cc: OSL Routing and Switching
> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Congratulations to Jay Taylor, CCIE #28391
> > >
> > > Congrats Jay I knew you would nail it!!!
> > >
> > > Jay Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Marko! Couldn't have done it without your help!!
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On Mar 15, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would just like to congratulate one of our students Jay Taylor, on
> > > > passing R&S lab. He is now CCIE #28391!
> > > >
> > > > It has been long overdue, but patience and hard work paid off for
> him.
> > > > When is your turn? :-)
> > > >
> > > > --
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 12:33:47 +0100
> From: Adam <[email protected]>
> To: "Ivan .:|:...:|:." <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] E-book reader for CCIE study
> Message-ID:
>        <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I'm using Kindle DX 9.7". In my opinion it's very good for reading
> tech docs. It also supports PDFs natively.
> I've tested 6" DX and it is too small to reach docs w/ diagrams etc,
> 9.7" is a perfect screen size in my opinion.
>
> You can't do anything else on it though (although it has a web
> browser, it is rather inconvenient to use), which is good and bad at
> the same time. If you want to use it strictly for studying, it's a
> good choice (no communicators, web etc that could distract your
> attention)...And unfortunately, its price is pretty high...
>
> Regards,
> Adam
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Ivan .:|:...:|:.
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Thanks for feedback guys. Seems that I will go with Kindle DX. I am
> > expecting that reading will be fine even on direct sunlight which I am
> not
> > sure is the case with
> > iPAD. Basically I just want to buy simple e-book which will be ergonomic
> for
> > my eyes as much as possible. Thanks for offer Michael, but I am already
> > using
> > standard glasses. :( ?Yesterday I found quite positive feedback:
> >
> > https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/message/90650
> >
> > http://www.pingjeffgreene.com/archive/2010/02/kindle-dx-review/
> >
> > Anyway I should have Kindle DX in month or two so keep you posted how it
> is
> > working.
> >
> > Regs,
> > Ivan
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 4:49 AM, Michael Hackney <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I had a Nook, I loved it... Until I started to read too many Cisco
> book..
> >> Or
> >> technical in general.. lol reason being you can't properly see the
> diagrams
> >> and if you can they're so small it's hard to understand.. ?So... I sold
> my
> >> Nook..
> >>
> >> Now you can get something bigger than a 6", but I started reading all my
> >> pdf
> >> books on my laptop or desktop again once I got a pair of Gunnars..
> >> http://www.gunnars.com/ They really helped a lot, I could read longer,
> >> sharper, no more head aches etc.. They are a bit pricey though...
> >> Especially
> >> if you need an RX on them.. Well anyways, two weeks ago I finally went
> to
> >> an
> >> eye doctor and got normal glasses and had no idea how 'blind' I was..
> So,
> >> now I don't use my Gunnars (but to put the RX on them is like $350)..
> >>
> >> Anyways, I highly recommend they are made high quality, look cool (I
> think
> >> some do) and come in an awesome case.. If you're interested I'll let go
> of
> >> mine for a good price, since I'm gonna be wearing my scripts now (not
> that
> >> you'd like that style), still recommend from anywhere though..
> >> http://www.gunnaroptiks.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=35 thats
> a
> >> link to the ones I have.. Just thought I'd chime in since I had similar
> >> experience. Good luck either way, I know how it can be with so much to
> >> read!
> >> :)
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:57 PM, J D'Silva <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have a Kobo and it utterly sucks with Cisco's PDF. ?You can use
> >> landscape
> >> > mode to make it slightly better, but it's still pretty terrible. ?If
> Kobo
> >> > would take the PDF title off the screen, and use smaller arrows to
> >> indicate
> >> > valid scroll directions AND if Cisco would stop using such horrible
> >> > indentation in all their docs (both DocCD and CiscoPress) then a 6"
> >> eReader
> >> > _might_ just be able to pull it off. ?Until then don't waste your time
> >> with
> >> > one that small.
> >> >
> >> > I'm curious to know how it goes on the DX. ?Post back if you do get it
> >> and
> >> > let us know.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Jay Taylor <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I use an iPad but the Kindle DX will work just fine too. Kindle 3
> will
> >> > not
> >> > > play well with Cisco pdf's.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Ivan ..:|:....:|:.. <
> cisco.world.sk@
> >> > > gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi guys,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I know that CCIE study beside practising requires lot of reading.
> I
> >> am
> >> > > > trying/going to read books recommened for exam but unfortunately I
> >> have
> >> > > > only
> >> > > > PDFs.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Therefore I would like to ask you if you could share your
> experience
> >> > with
> >> > > > e-books readers. I am planning to buy Amazon's Kindle DX but was
> >> > confused
> >> > > > by
> >> > > > reviews regarding its ability to be ergonomic
> >> > > >
> >> > > > reader for technical books. I am seeking for workaround - to
> bypass
> >> PDF
> >> > > > reading on my laptop which is hurting my eyes last weeks.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Ivan
> >> > > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> >> > please
> >> > > > visit www.ipexpert.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> >> please
> >> > > visit www.ipexpert.com
> >> > >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> please
> >> > visit www.ipexpert.com
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> please
> >> visit www.ipexpert.com
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> visit www.ipexpert.com
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:54:24 +0000
> From: [email protected]
> To: "Ivan .:|:...:|:." <[email protected]>,
>        [email protected],    "Michael Hackney"
>        <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] E-book reader for CCIE study
> Message-ID:
>
>  
> <1270842689-1300190065-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-13408111...@bda581.bisx.prod.on.blackberry
> >
>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> You cannot open any books which has a security codes like pdf with security
> code....
>
> DX only supports basic pdfs...
> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Ivan .:|:...:|:." <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:45:40
> To: Michael Hackney<[email protected]>
> Cc: <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] E-book reader for CCIE study
>
> Thanks for feedback guys. Seems that I will go with Kindle DX. I am
> expecting that reading will be fine even on direct sunlight which I am not
> sure is the case with
> iPAD. Basically I just want to buy simple e-book which will be ergonomic
> for
> my eyes as much as possible. Thanks for offer Michael, but I am already
> using
> standard glasses. :(  Yesterday I found quite positive feedback:
>
> https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/message/90650
>
> http://www.pingjeffgreene.com/archive/2010/02/kindle-dx-review/
>
> Anyway I should have Kindle DX in month or two so keep you posted how it is
> working.
>
> Regs,
> Ivan
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 4:49 AM, Michael Hackney <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > I had a Nook, I loved it... Until I started to read too many Cisco book..
> > Or
> > technical in general.. lol reason being you can't properly see the
> diagrams
> > and if you can they're so small it's hard to understand..  So... I sold
> my
> > Nook..
> >
> > Now you can get something bigger than a 6", but I started reading all my
> > pdf
> > books on my laptop or desktop again once I got a pair of Gunnars..
> > http://www.gunnars.com/ They really helped a lot, I could read longer,
> > sharper, no more head aches etc.. They are a bit pricey though...
> > Especially
> > if you need an RX on them.. Well anyways, two weeks ago I finally went to
> > an
> > eye doctor and got normal glasses and had no idea how 'blind' I was.. So,
> > now I don't use my Gunnars (but to put the RX on them is like $350)..
> >
> > Anyways, I highly recommend they are made high quality, look cool (I
> think
> > some do) and come in an awesome case.. If you're interested I'll let go
> of
> > mine for a good price, since I'm gonna be wearing my scripts now (not
> that
> > you'd like that style), still recommend from anywhere though..
> > http://www.gunnaroptiks.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=35 thats a
> > link to the ones I have.. Just thought I'd chime in since I had similar
> > experience. Good luck either way, I know how it can be with so much to
> > read!
> > :)
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:57 PM, J D'Silva <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I have a Kobo and it utterly sucks with Cisco's PDF.  You can use
> > landscape
> > > mode to make it slightly better, but it's still pretty terrible.  If
> Kobo
> > > would take the PDF title off the screen, and use smaller arrows to
> > indicate
> > > valid scroll directions AND if Cisco would stop using such horrible
> > > indentation in all their docs (both DocCD and CiscoPress) then a 6"
> > eReader
> > > _might_ just be able to pull it off.  Until then don't waste your time
> > with
> > > one that small.
> > >
> > > I'm curious to know how it goes on the DX.  Post back if you do get it
> > and
> > > let us know.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Jay Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I use an iPad but the Kindle DX will work just fine too. Kindle 3
> will
> > > not
> > > > play well with Cisco pdf's.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Ivan ..:|:....:|:.. <cisco.world.sk
> @
> > > > gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > >
> > > > > I know that CCIE study beside practising requires lot of reading. I
> > am
> > > > > trying/going to read books recommened for exam but unfortunately I
> > have
> > > > > only
> > > > > PDFs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Therefore I would like to ask you if you could share your
> experience
> > > with
> > > > > e-books readers. I am planning to buy Amazon's Kindle DX but was
> > > confused
> > > > > by
> > > > > reviews regarding its ability to be ergonomic
> > > > >
> > > > > reader for technical books. I am seeking for workaround - to bypass
> > PDF
> > > > > reading on my laptop which is hurting my eyes last weeks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > > Ivan
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> > > please
> > > > > visit www.ipexpert.com
> > > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> > please
> > > > visit www.ipexpert.com
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> please
> > > visit www.ipexpert.com
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> > visit www.ipexpert.com
> >
> _______________________________________________
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:16:39 +0100
> From: Adam <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected], [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] E-book reader for CCIE study
> Message-ID:
>        <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> That's correct, but you can always find a way around ;)
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:54 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> > You cannot open any books which has a security codes like pdf with
> security code....
> >
> > DX only supports basic pdfs...
> > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Ivan .:|:...:|:." <[email protected]>
> > Sender: [email protected]
> > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:45:40
> > To: Michael Hackney<[email protected]>
> > Cc: <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] E-book reader for CCIE study
> >
> > Thanks for feedback guys. Seems that I will go with Kindle DX. I am
> > expecting that reading will be fine even on direct sunlight which I am
> not
> > sure is the case with
> > iPAD. Basically I just want to buy simple e-book which will be ergonomic
> for
> > my eyes as much as possible. Thanks for offer Michael, but I am already
> > using
> > standard glasses. :( ?Yesterday I found quite positive feedback:
> >
> > https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/message/90650
> >
> > http://www.pingjeffgreene.com/archive/2010/02/kindle-dx-review/
> >
> > Anyway I should have Kindle DX in month or two so keep you posted how it
> is
> > working.
> >
> > Regs,
> > Ivan
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 4:49 AM, Michael Hackney <[email protected]
> >wrote:
> >
> >> I had a Nook, I loved it... Until I started to read too many Cisco
> book..
> >> Or
> >> technical in general.. lol reason being you can't properly see the
> diagrams
> >> and if you can they're so small it's hard to understand.. ?So... I sold
> my
> >> Nook..
> >>
> >> Now you can get something bigger than a 6", but I started reading all my
> >> pdf
> >> books on my laptop or desktop again once I got a pair of Gunnars..
> >> http://www.gunnars.com/ They really helped a lot, I could read longer,
> >> sharper, no more head aches etc.. They are a bit pricey though...
> >> Especially
> >> if you need an RX on them.. Well anyways, two weeks ago I finally went
> to
> >> an
> >> eye doctor and got normal glasses and had no idea how 'blind' I was..
> So,
> >> now I don't use my Gunnars (but to put the RX on them is like $350)..
> >>
> >> Anyways, I highly recommend they are made high quality, look cool (I
> think
> >> some do) and come in an awesome case.. If you're interested I'll let go
> of
> >> mine for a good price, since I'm gonna be wearing my scripts now (not
> that
> >> you'd like that style), still recommend from anywhere though..
> >> http://www.gunnaroptiks.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=35 thats
> a
> >> link to the ones I have.. Just thought I'd chime in since I had similar
> >> experience. Good luck either way, I know how it can be with so much to
> >> read!
> >> :)
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:57 PM, J D'Silva <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have a Kobo and it utterly sucks with Cisco's PDF. ?You can use
> >> landscape
> >> > mode to make it slightly better, but it's still pretty terrible. ?If
> Kobo
> >> > would take the PDF title off the screen, and use smaller arrows to
> >> indicate
> >> > valid scroll directions AND if Cisco would stop using such horrible
> >> > indentation in all their docs (both DocCD and CiscoPress) then a 6"
> >> eReader
> >> > _might_ just be able to pull it off. ?Until then don't waste your time
> >> with
> >> > one that small.
> >> >
> >> > I'm curious to know how it goes on the DX. ?Post back if you do get it
> >> and
> >> > let us know.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Jay Taylor <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I use an iPad but the Kindle DX will work just fine too. Kindle 3
> will
> >> > not
> >> > > play well with Cisco pdf's.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Ivan ..:|:....:|:.. <
> cisco.world.sk@
> >> > > gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi guys,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I know that CCIE study beside practising requires lot of reading.
> I
> >> am
> >> > > > trying/going to read books recommened for exam but unfortunately I
> >> have
> >> > > > only
> >> > > > PDFs.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Therefore I would like to ask you if you could share your
> experience
> >> > with
> >> > > > e-books readers. I am planning to buy Amazon's Kindle DX but was
> >> > confused
> >> > > > by
> >> > > > reviews regarding its ability to be ergonomic
> >> > > >
> >> > > > reader for technical books. I am seeking for workaround - to
> bypass
> >> PDF
> >> > > > reading on my laptop which is hurting my eyes last weeks.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Thanks
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Ivan
> >> > > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> >> > please
> >> > > > visit www.ipexpert.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> >> please
> >> > > visit www.ipexpert.com
> >> > >
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> please
> >> > visit www.ipexpert.com
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> please
> >> visit www.ipexpert.com
> >>
> > _______________________________________________
> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> visit www.ipexpert.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
> visit www.ipexpert.com
> >
>
>
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