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>   1. Re: E-book reader for CCIE study (Kurt Bales)
>   2. Re: E-book reader for CCIE study ([email protected])
>   3. Congratulations to Jay Taylor, CCIE #28391 (Marko Milivojevic)
>   4. Re: Congratulations to Jay Taylor, CCIE #28391 (Jay Taylor)
>   5. Re: Congratulations to Jay Taylor, CCIE #28391 ([email protected])
>   6. Re: Congratulations to Jay Taylor, CCIE #28391 (Di Bias, Steve)
>   7. Re: Congratulations to Jay Taylor, CCIE #28391 (Anthony Burke)
>   8. Re: Congratulations to Jay Taylor, CCIE #28391 (Roy Waterman)
>   9. Re: E-book reader for CCIE study (Ivan .:|:...:|:.)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 14:55:15 +1100
> From: Kurt Bales <[email protected]>
> To: Neal McDonald <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] E-book reader for CCIE study
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> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 14:34, Neal McDonald <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> Sunlight causes late collisions, doesn't it?
>> 
> 
> No, that's solar flares ;)
> 
> I personally use an iPad with a combination of GoodReader, CHMMate and
> Dropbox. Works great for everything I have needed.
> 
> Kurt
> @networkjanitor
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> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 03:57:56 +0000
> From: [email protected]
> To: "Neal McDonald" <[email protected]>,
>    [email protected],    "Ivan ..:|:....:|:.."
>    <[email protected]>
> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] E-book reader for CCIE study
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> The nook color is nice and if you root it you can install the android reader. 
> It works well and is not too pricey. 
> ------Original Message------
> From: Neal McDonald
> Sender: [email protected]
> To: Ivan ..:|:....:|:..
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] E-book reader for CCIE study
> Sent: Mar 14, 2011 11:34 PM
> 
> I tried a Sony E-Reader but found the PDF rendering very weak with the 
> diagrams difficult and cumbersome to view. The ability to resize with these 
> iPad-type devices is wonderful. Seriously, how often are you going to be 
> studying in direct sunlight?  Sunlight causes late collisions, doesn't it?
> 
> Neal
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Mar 14, 2011, at 7:20 PM, "Ivan ..:|:....:|:.." <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> I know that CCIE study beside practising requires lot of reading. I am
>> trying/going to read books recommened for exam but unfortunately I have only
>> PDFs.
>> 
>> Therefore I would like to ask you if you could share your experience with
>> e-books readers. I am planning to buy Amazon's Kindle DX but was confused by
>> reviews regarding its ability to be ergonomic
>> 
>> reader for technical books. I am seeking for workaround - to bypass PDF
>> reading on my laptop which is hurting my eyes last weeks.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Ivan
>> _______________________________________________
>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please 
>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 22:58:43 -0700
> From: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]>
> To: OSL Routing and Switching <[email protected]>
> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Congratulations to Jay Taylor, CCIE #28391
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> I would just like to congratulate one of our students Jay Taylor, on passing
> R&S lab. He is now CCIE #28391!
> 
> It has been long overdue, but patience and hard work paid off for him. When
> is your turn? :-)
> 
> --
> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
> 
> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
> 
> Mailto: [email protected]
> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:27:04 -0400
> From: Jay Taylor <[email protected]>
> To: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]>
> Cc: OSL Routing and Switching <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Congratulations to Jay Taylor, CCIE
>    #28391
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=us-ascii
> 
> Thanks Marko! Couldn't have done it without your help!!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 15, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I would just like to congratulate one of our students Jay Taylor, on passing
>> R&S lab. He is now CCIE #28391!
>> 
>> It has been long overdue, but patience and hard work paid off for him. When
>> is your turn? :-)
>> 
>> --
>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>> 
>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>> 
>> Mailto: [email protected]
>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>> _______________________________________________
>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please 
>> visit www.ipexpert.com
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 07:00:00 +0000
> From: [email protected]
> To: "Jay Taylor" <[email protected]>,
>    [email protected],    "Marko Milivojevic"
>    <[email protected]>
> Cc: OSL Routing and Switching <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Congratulations to Jay Taylor, CCIE
>    #28391
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> Congrats!!!!
> 
> What books did you go through...please help us
> 
> Regards,
> Chetan
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay Taylor <[email protected]>
> Sender: [email protected]
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 02:27:04 
> To: Marko Milivojevic<[email protected]>
> Cc: OSL Routing and Switching<[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Congratulations to Jay Taylor, CCIE #28391
> 
> Thanks Marko! Couldn't have done it without your help!!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 15, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I would just like to congratulate one of our students Jay Taylor, on passing
>> R&S lab. He is now CCIE #28391!
>> 
>> It has been long overdue, but patience and hard work paid off for him. When
>> is your turn? :-)
>> 
>> --
>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>> 
>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>> 
>> Mailto: [email protected]
>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>> _______________________________________________
>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please 
>> visit www.ipexpert.com
> _______________________________________________
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please 
> visit www.ipexpert.com
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 03:19:48 -0400
> From: "Di Bias, Steve" <[email protected]>
> To: Jay Taylor <[email protected]>, Marko Milivojevic
>    <[email protected]>
> Cc: OSL Routing and Switching <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Congratulations to Jay Taylor, CCIE
>    #28391
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Congrats Jay I knew you would nail it!!!
> 
> Jay Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Marko! Couldn't have done it without your help!!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 15, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I would just like to congratulate one of our students Jay Taylor, on passing
>> R&S lab. He is now CCIE #28391!
>> 
>> It has been long overdue, but patience and hard work paid off for him. When
>> is your turn? :-)
>> 
>> --
>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>> 
>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>> 
>> Mailto: [email protected]
>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>> _______________________________________________
>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please 
>> visit www.ipexpert.com
> _______________________________________________
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please 
> visit www.ipexpert.com
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 07:58:04 +0000
> From: Anthony Burke <[email protected]>
> To: "Di Bias, Steve" <[email protected]>, Jay Taylor
>    <[email protected]>, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]>
> Cc: OSL Routing and Switching <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Congratulations to Jay Taylor, CCIE
>    #28391
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> Congrats. As I said on Twitter, I definitely wore out my widgets refresh 
> button. Very Pumped for you.
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Anthony.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Di Bias, Steve
> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 6:20 PM
> To: Jay Taylor; Marko Milivojevic
> Cc: OSL Routing and Switching
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Congratulations to Jay Taylor, CCIE #28391
> 
> Congrats Jay I knew you would nail it!!!
> 
> Jay Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Marko! Couldn't have done it without your help!!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 15, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I would just like to congratulate one of our students Jay Taylor, on 
>> passing R&S lab. He is now CCIE #28391!
>> 
>> It has been long overdue, but patience and hard work paid off for him. 
>> When is your turn? :-)
>> 
>> --
>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>> 
>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>> 
>> Mailto: [email protected]
>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>> _______________________________________________
>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, 
>> please visit www.ipexpert.com
> _______________________________________________
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please 
> visit www.ipexpert.com
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 08:33:35 +0000
> From: Roy Waterman <[email protected]>
> To: Jay Taylor <[email protected]>
> Cc: OSL Routing and Switching <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Congratulations to Jay Taylor, CCIE
>    #28391
> Message-ID:
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> Congratulations!!
> 
> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Di Bias, Steve
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 6:20 PM
>> To: Jay Taylor; Marko Milivojevic
>> Cc: OSL Routing and Switching
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Congratulations to Jay Taylor, CCIE #28391
>> 
>> Congrats Jay I knew you would nail it!!!
>> 
>> Jay Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks Marko! Couldn't have done it without your help!!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 15, 2011, at 1:58 AM, Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I would just like to congratulate one of our students Jay Taylor, on
>>> passing R&S lab. He is now CCIE #28391!
>>> 
>>> It has been long overdue, but patience and hard work paid off for him.
>>> When is your turn? :-)
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>> 
>>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>>> 
>>> Mailto: [email protected]
>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>>> please visit www.ipexpert.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>> 
>> 
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>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards
> Roy
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:45:40 +0100
> From: "Ivan .:|:...:|:." <[email protected]>
> To: Michael Hackney <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] E-book reader for CCIE study
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Thanks for feedback guys. Seems that I will go with Kindle DX. I am
> expecting that reading will be fine even on direct sunlight which I am not
> sure is the case with
> iPAD. Basically I just want to buy simple e-book which will be ergonomic for
> my eyes as much as possible. Thanks for offer Michael, but I am already
> using
> standard glasses. :(  Yesterday I found quite positive feedback:
> 
> https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/message/90650
> 
> http://www.pingjeffgreene.com/archive/2010/02/kindle-dx-review/
> 
> Anyway I should have Kindle DX in month or two so keep you posted how it is
> working.
> 
> Regs,
> Ivan
> 
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 4:49 AM, Michael Hackney <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
>> I had a Nook, I loved it... Until I started to read too many Cisco book..
>> Or
>> technical in general.. lol reason being you can't properly see the diagrams
>> and if you can they're so small it's hard to understand..  So... I sold my
>> Nook..
>> 
>> Now you can get something bigger than a 6", but I started reading all my
>> pdf
>> books on my laptop or desktop again once I got a pair of Gunnars..
>> http://www.gunnars.com/ They really helped a lot, I could read longer,
>> sharper, no more head aches etc.. They are a bit pricey though...
>> Especially
>> if you need an RX on them.. Well anyways, two weeks ago I finally went to
>> an
>> eye doctor and got normal glasses and had no idea how 'blind' I was.. So,
>> now I don't use my Gunnars (but to put the RX on them is like $350)..
>> 
>> Anyways, I highly recommend they are made high quality, look cool (I think
>> some do) and come in an awesome case.. If you're interested I'll let go of
>> mine for a good price, since I'm gonna be wearing my scripts now (not that
>> you'd like that style), still recommend from anywhere though..
>> http://www.gunnaroptiks.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=35 thats a
>> link to the ones I have.. Just thought I'd chime in since I had similar
>> experience. Good luck either way, I know how it can be with so much to
>> read!
>> :)
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 6:57 PM, J D'Silva <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have a Kobo and it utterly sucks with Cisco's PDF.  You can use
>> landscape
>>> mode to make it slightly better, but it's still pretty terrible.  If Kobo
>>> would take the PDF title off the screen, and use smaller arrows to
>> indicate
>>> valid scroll directions AND if Cisco would stop using such horrible
>>> indentation in all their docs (both DocCD and CiscoPress) then a 6"
>> eReader
>>> _might_ just be able to pull it off.  Until then don't waste your time
>> with
>>> one that small.
>>> 
>>> I'm curious to know how it goes on the DX.  Post back if you do get it
>> and
>>> let us know.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Jay Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I use an iPad but the Kindle DX will work just fine too. Kindle 3 will
>>> not
>>>> play well with Cisco pdf's.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:20 PM, Ivan ..:|:....:|:.. <cisco.world.sk@
>>>> gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know that CCIE study beside practising requires lot of reading. I
>> am
>>>>> trying/going to read books recommened for exam but unfortunately I
>> have
>>>>> only
>>>>> PDFs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Therefore I would like to ask you if you could share your experience
>>> with
>>>>> e-books readers. I am planning to buy Amazon's Kindle DX but was
>>> confused
>>>>> by
>>>>> reviews regarding its ability to be ergonomic
>>>>> 
>>>>> reader for technical books. I am seeking for workaround - to bypass
>> PDF
>>>>> reading on my laptop which is hurting my eyes last weeks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ivan
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>>> please
>>>>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
>> please
>>>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
>>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please
>> visit www.ipexpert.com
>> 
> 
> 
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