Magnus, Congratulation with your CCIE. Couple of questions though:
1. Don't they reload the routers before grading? 2. Does the debug command survive the reload? Thanks, Andrew ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 19:05:07 +0200 From: Magnus P?hlsson <[email protected]> To: CCIE_RS OnlineStudyList <[email protected]> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE #30914 - passed after a reread Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I haven't been that active on this list so I wasn't planning on posting anything when (there are no if's, only when's) I passed my CCIE. Considering the circumstances (reread) I decided to post anyway. More (but not alot) info about my two attempts can be found over at http://ccie-quest.driftverket.se After my second attempt I went into a post-exam depression. I just couldn't for the life of me understand what went wrong. I went through everything in my head and apart from that one question that I probably failed but COULD have gotten correct I couldn't see what went wrong. I started to consider a reread. I was a bit scared considering the very low chance of actually getting the results changed. I googled after the experience of others and yes, I did find a few who actually passed. I also found a lot of posts that claims that 0.3% of all rereads ends with a changed grade. I couldn't make up my mind. I went back to analyzing what I might have done wrong. That was when it hit me. During one of the bootcamps one of the other students lost something like 40 points without understanding why. After some digging and troubleshooting the instructor figured that maybe it was because the student had forgotten to disable debug. They reloaded the configs, made sure debug was disabled and then regraded and WHOOP, there were the points! I searched my memory and there it was. I had forgotten to disable debug on at least 2-3 devices who were involved in two different tickets. Could those be the two tickets I missed? Could it be that debug output messed with the automatic grading scripts? If that broke the training lab in one of the Cisco 360 bootcamps, perhaps the same could happen in the lab itself? But still the horrible stats held me back. 0.3%! But then, on the 10th day after my second attempt I thought to myself, "to hell with it, it's only 300 dollars and I've (read: work) spent a LOT more than that. I'll give it a try". I applied for a re-read on September 29th. Since then I've been logging into the portal and checked at least 5 times every day. Nothing happened until 2 days ago. 2 days ago the "FAIL" mark and the score report link disappeared. They weren't replaced by anything, just blank fields. I started to freak out and tried to find something online that could tell me what that might mean. The only thing I found was a forum thread where someone had seen the exact same thing. After a while he had gotten his exam changed to a PASS. Someone else posted in that same thread and said that he hadn't seen anything like that but he also said that he didn't get his score changed. So now I'm starting to feel really hopeful (ask my nerdy-cisco-coworkers ;) ). I only found one single site that described the exact same thing but it sure was enough to get me going. I was hoping that the site would be updated the next day but NOTHING happened! So now the "fear" creeps back in. I'm beginning to think that it doesn't mean anything. It will end with a confirmation of the fail. It's been a month (kinda) since the attempt and I haven't studied anything. I'm preparing for the inevitable decision: I'm giving up. I can't do it again. At least not now. Maybe if I wait six months... But then I wake up today to find this in my inbox: ---- Dear Magnus Pahlsson , Regarding the re-read request of your CCIE Lab exam was taken September 19 2011 We are glad to inform you that your re-read request has been completed and uploaded to your CCIE CCO Account. The CCIE lab exam re-read result status has been changed from FAIL TO PASS. We are processing your re-read exam fee waiver. Congratulations!!!! Regards Mahesh.K CCIE Program ----- They don't say anything about my new result. I haven't even gotten a new percentage so I don't know how much the manual grading changed my score. But to be honest I don't care. I'm a single parent with 2 kids. I work full time. I've been studying nights. I've had pretty close to no social life for the last two years. Today I am CCIE #30914 and damn, it feels good. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:38:32 -0700 From: Marko Milivojevic <[email protected]> To: OSL Routing and Switching <[email protected]> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] Can You Pass on a Re-Read? Message-ID: <CAGDYm0x5=9jqen+d_smpnstqprkp_g4gxpoauy5oy2pz0-f...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I'm very often asked this question and I even wrote a blog about it. It doesn't happen very often that it happens to a very active OSL member though :-) Magnus Pahlsson is now a CCIE #30914 after a re-read of his test! :-) Congratulations Magnus and well done! :-) You can read about his re-read experience on his blog here: http://ccie-quest.driftverket.se/2011/10/ccie-30914-do-not-fear-reread.html -- Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture Mailto: [email protected] Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:03:00 -0300 From: Jeferson Guardia <[email protected]> To: Magnus P?hlsson <[email protected]> Cc: CCIE_RS OnlineStudyList <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE #30914 - passed after a reread Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Congrats!!! Super!! Welcome to the club!!!! Sent from my iPhone On 14/10/2011, at 14:05, Magnus P?hlsson <[email protected]> wrote: > I haven't been that active on this list so I wasn't planning on posting anything when (there are no if's, only when's) I passed my CCIE. Considering the circumstances (reread) I decided to post anyway. More (but not alot) info about my two attempts can be found over at http://ccie-quest.driftverket.se > > After my second attempt I went into a post-exam depression. I just couldn't for the life of me understand what went wrong. I went through everything in my head and apart from that one question that I probably failed but COULD have gotten correct I couldn't see what went wrong. > > I started to consider a reread. I was a bit scared considering the very low chance of actually getting the results changed. I googled after the experience of others and yes, I did find a few who actually passed. I also found a lot of posts that claims that 0.3% of all rereads ends with a changed grade. I couldn't make up my mind. > > I went back to analyzing what I might have done wrong. That was when it hit me. During one of the bootcamps one of the other students lost > something like 40 points without understanding why. After some digging and troubleshooting the instructor figured that maybe it was because the student had forgotten to disable debug. They reloaded the configs, made sure debug was disabled and then regraded and WHOOP, there were the points! I searched my memory and there it was. I had forgotten to disable debug on at least 2-3 devices who were involved in two different tickets. Could those be the two tickets I missed? Could it be that debug output messed with the automatic grading scripts? If that broke the training lab in one of the Cisco 360 bootcamps, perhaps the same could happen in the lab itself? > > But still the horrible stats held me back. 0.3%! But then, on the 10th day after my second attempt I thought to myself, "to hell with it, it's only 300 dollars and I've (read: work) spent a LOT more than that. I'll give it a try". I applied for a re-read on September 29th. > > Since then I've been logging into the portal and checked at least 5 times every day. Nothing happened until 2 days ago. 2 days ago the "FAIL" mark and the score report link disappeared. They weren't replaced by anything, just blank fields. I started to freak out and tried to find something online that could tell me what that might mean. The only thing I found was a forum thread where someone had seen the exact same thing. After a while he had gotten his exam changed to a PASS. Someone else posted in that same thread and said that he hadn't seen anything like that but he also said that he didn't get his score changed. > > So now I'm starting to feel really hopeful (ask my nerdy-cisco-coworkers ;) ). I only found one single site that described the exact same thing but it sure was enough to get me going. I was hoping that the site would be updated the next day but NOTHING happened! So now the "fear" creeps back in. I'm beginning to think that it doesn't mean anything. It will end with a confirmation of the fail. It's been a month (kinda) since the attempt and I haven't studied anything. I'm preparing for the inevitable decision: I'm giving up. I can't do it again. At least not now. Maybe if I wait six months... > > But then I wake up today to find this in my inbox: > > ---- > Dear Magnus Pahlsson , > > Regarding the re-read request of your CCIE Lab exam was taken September 19 2011 > > We are glad to inform you that your re-read request has been completed and uploaded to your CCIE CCO Account. > > The CCIE lab exam re-read result status has been changed from FAIL TO PASS. We are processing your re-read exam fee waiver. > > Congratulations!!!! > > Regards > > Mahesh.K > > CCIE Program > ----- > > They don't say anything about my new result. I haven't even gotten a new percentage so I don't know how much the manual grading changed my score. But to be honest I don't care. > > I'm a single parent with 2 kids. I work full time. I've been studying nights. I've had pretty close to no social life for the last two years. > > Today I am CCIE #30914 and damn, it feels good. > > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 15:05:43 -0500 From: marc abel <[email protected]> To: Magnus P?hlsson <[email protected]> Cc: CCIE_RS OnlineStudyList <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE #30914 - passed after a reread Message-ID: <CANYR4zkxuX=XwKVzp8WVZ8XSbT-Rf_Qo2s-HTmZ=6xqakrd...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Congratulations! and note to self undebug all -Marc 2011/10/14 Magnus P?hlsson <[email protected]>: > I haven't been that active on this list so I wasn't planning on posting anything when (there are no if's, only when's) I passed my CCIE. Considering the circumstances (reread) I decided to post anyway. More (but not alot) info about my two attempts can be found over at http://ccie-quest.driftverket.se > > After my second attempt I went into a post-exam depression. I just couldn't for the life of me understand what went wrong. I went through everything in my head and apart from that one question that I probably failed but COULD have gotten correct I couldn't see what went wrong. > > I started to consider a reread. I was a bit scared considering the very low chance of actually getting the results changed. I googled after the experience of others and yes, I did find a few who actually passed. I also found a lot of posts that claims that 0.3% of all rereads ends with a changed grade. I couldn't make up my mind. > > I went back to analyzing what I might have done wrong. That was when it hit me. During one of the bootcamps one of the other students lost > something like 40 points without understanding why. After some digging and troubleshooting the instructor figured that maybe it was because the student had forgotten to disable debug. They reloaded the configs, made sure debug was disabled and then regraded and WHOOP, there were the points! I searched my memory and there it was. I had forgotten to disable debug on at least 2-3 devices who were involved in two different tickets. Could those be the two tickets I missed? Could it be that debug output messed with the automatic grading scripts? If that broke the training lab in one of the Cisco 360 bootcamps, perhaps the same could happen in the lab itself? > > But still the horrible stats held me back. 0.3%! But then, on the 10th day after my second attempt I thought to myself, "to hell with it, it's only 300 dollars and I've (read: work) spent a LOT more than that. I'll give it a try". I applied for a re-read on September 29th. > > Since then I've been logging into the portal and checked at least 5 times every day. Nothing happened until 2 days ago. 2 days ago the "FAIL" mark and the score report link disappeared. They weren't replaced by anything, just blank fields. I started to freak out and tried to find something online that could tell me what that might mean. The only thing I found was a forum thread where someone had seen the exact same thing. After a while he had gotten his exam changed to a PASS. Someone else posted in that same thread and said that he hadn't seen anything like that but he also said that he didn't get his score changed. > > So now I'm starting to feel really hopeful (ask my nerdy-cisco-coworkers ;) ). I only found one single site that described the exact same thing but it sure was enough to get me going. I was hoping that the site would be updated the next day but NOTHING happened! So now the "fear" creeps back in. I'm beginning to think that it doesn't mean anything. It will end with a confirmation of the fail. It's been a month (kinda) since the attempt and I haven't studied anything. I'm preparing for the inevitable decision: I'm giving up. I can't do it again. At least not now. Maybe if I wait six months... > > But then I wake up today to find this in my inbox: > > ---- > Dear Magnus Pahlsson , > > Regarding the re-read request of your CCIE Lab exam was taken ?September 19 2011 > > We are glad to inform you that your re-read request has been completed and uploaded to your CCIE CCO Account. > > The CCIE lab exam re-read result status has been changed from FAIL TO PASS. We are processing your re-read exam fee waiver. > > Congratulations!!!! > > Regards > > Mahesh.K > > CCIE Program > ----- > > They don't say anything about my new result. I haven't even gotten a new percentage so I don't know how much the manual grading changed my score. But to be honest I don't care. > > I'm a single parent with 2 kids. I work full time. I've been studying nights. I've had pretty close to no social life for the last two years. > > Today I am CCIE #30914 and damn, it feels good. > > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:08:58 +0200 From: Magnus P?hlsson <[email protected]> To: marc abel <[email protected]> Cc: CCIE_RS OnlineStudyList <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE #30914 - passed after a reread Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 That is a very good note to ones self. But also, remember that this might not have been the actual issue. The gradings scripts *can* be faulty! When in doubt, ask for a reread even if you know that debug wasn't the issue! //M On Oct 14, 2011, at 10:05 PM, marc abel wrote: > Congratulations! > > and note to self > > undebug all > > -Marc > > 2011/10/14 Magnus P?hlsson <[email protected]>: >> I haven't been that active on this list so I wasn't planning on posting anything when (there are no if's, only when's) I passed my CCIE. Considering the circumstances (reread) I decided to post anyway. More (but not alot) info about my two attempts can be found over at http://ccie-quest.driftverket.se >> >> After my second attempt I went into a post-exam depression. I just couldn't for the life of me understand what went wrong. I went through everything in my head and apart from that one question that I probably failed but COULD have gotten correct I couldn't see what went wrong. >> >> I started to consider a reread. I was a bit scared considering the very low chance of actually getting the results changed. I googled after the experience of others and yes, I did find a few who actually passed. I also found a lot of posts that claims that 0.3% of all rereads ends with a changed grade. I couldn't make up my mind. >> >> I went back to analyzing what I might have done wrong. That was when it hit me. During one of the bootcamps one of the other students lost >> something like 40 points without understanding why. After some digging and troubleshooting the instructor figured that maybe it was because the student had forgotten to disable debug. They reloaded the configs, made sure debug was disabled and then regraded and WHOOP, there were the points! I searched my memory and there it was. I had forgotten to disable debug on at least 2-3 devices who were involved in two different tickets. Could those be the two tickets I missed? Could it be that debug output messed with the automatic grading scripts? If that broke the training lab in one of the Cisco 360 bootcamps, perhaps the same could happen in the lab itself? >> >> But still the horrible stats held me back. 0.3%! But then, on the 10th day after my second attempt I thought to myself, "to hell with it, it's only 300 dollars and I've (read: work) spent a LOT more than that. I'll give it a try". I applied for a re-read on September 29th. >> >> Since then I've been logging into the portal and checked at least 5 times every day. Nothing happened until 2 days ago. 2 days ago the "FAIL" mark and the score report link disappeared. They weren't replaced by anything, just blank fields. I started to freak out and tried to find something online that could tell me what that might mean. The only thing I found was a forum thread where someone had seen the exact same thing. After a while he had gotten his exam changed to a PASS. Someone else posted in that same thread and said that he hadn't seen anything like that but he also said that he didn't get his score changed. >> >> So now I'm starting to feel really hopeful (ask my nerdy-cisco-coworkers ;) ). I only found one single site that described the exact same thing but it sure was enough to get me going. I was hoping that the site would be updated the next day but NOTHING happened! So now the "fear" creeps back in. I'm beginning to think that it doesn't mean anything. It will end with a confirmation of the fail. It's been a month (kinda) since the attempt and I haven't studied anything. I'm preparing for the inevitable decision: I'm giving up. I can't do it again. At least not now. Maybe if I wait six months... >> >> But then I wake up today to find this in my inbox: >> >> ---- >> Dear Magnus Pahlsson , >> >> Regarding the re-read request of your CCIE Lab exam was taken September 19 2011 >> >> We are glad to inform you that your re-read request has been completed and uploaded to your CCIE CCO Account. >> >> The CCIE lab exam re-read result status has been changed from FAIL TO PASS. We are processing your re-read exam fee waiver. >> >> Congratulations!!!! >> >> Regards >> >> Mahesh.K >> >> CCIE Program >> ----- >> >> They don't say anything about my new result. I haven't even gotten a new percentage so I don't know how much the manual grading changed my score. But to be honest I don't care. >> >> I'm a single parent with 2 kids. I work full time. I've been studying nights. I've had pretty close to no social life for the last two years. >> >> Today I am CCIE #30914 and damn, it feels good. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 17:19:13 -0300 From: Fabio Mendes <[email protected]> To: Magnus P?hlsson <[email protected]> Cc: CCIE_RS OnlineStudyList <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE #30914 - passed after a reread Message-ID: <caee2jgbuui-7hf_a42vpxvnjm-qmghaux+se+go9rag-mbl...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Congratulations Magnus ! I have two kids too and even with my wife's help is really difficult to conciliate my job, studies and time due for the kids. I can't imagine how hard it was to get time to study for your exam and also have time for yor kids. Now more than ever, celebrate your great achievement with them. After all we do this for us and for them too. best regards man ! End of CCIE_RS Digest, Vol 69, Issue 18 *************************************** _______________________________________________ For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, please visit www.ipexpert.com Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out www.PlatinumPlacement.com
