Not necessarilly. You can have PPPoFR configured on a physical
interface or a multipoint subinterface. Totally legitimate:

interface Serial0/0/0
 encapsulation frame-relay
 frame-relay interface-dlci 100 ppp virtual-template 1
!
interface Serial0/0/0.200 multipoint
 encapsulation frame-relay
 frame-relay interface-dlci 200 ppp virtual-template 2
!
interface Serial0/0/0.300 point-to-point
 encapsulation frame-relay
 frame-relay interface-dlci 300 ppp virtual-template 3
!

--
Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S)
Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 7:51 AM, Kenyone Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Oh I also thought about this, you have to tell frame relay that the interface 
> type is point to point.  but just because the interface encapsulation is 
> frame relay, those two may be different.  just another suggestion.
>  > From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> CC: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] CCIE_RS] PPP over Frame
>> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 23:44:09 +0000
>>
>> Ppp over frame is different.  It is point to point so no dlci to ip mapping. 
>>  This is why ip unnumbered on the virtual template is the solution here.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 21/09/2012, at 3:27 AM, "Kenyone Johnson" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Max, In order to ping your own ip address, you'll have to have an ip to 
>> > dlci mapping.  so map your local ip to the local dlci and it should work.  
>> >  > From: [email protected]
>> >> Subject: CCIE_RS Digest, Vol 80, Issue 23
>> >> To: [email protected]
>> >> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:00:03 -0400
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>> >>   1. PPP over Frame (Max Kamali)
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>> >>   3. Re: PPP over Frame (Michael Davis - Webquor)
>> >>   4. Re: PPP over Frame (Bhaskar Kumar)
>> >>   5. Re: PPP over Frame (JM NGOK)
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>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 23:13:42 -0700
>> >> From: Max Kamali <[email protected]>
>> >> To: [email protected]
>> >> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] PPP over Frame
>> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Is it possible to configure ppp over frame and for the local router to be
>> >> able to ping its own ip address not just the other side?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >> Max
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 2
>> >> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:24:25 +0300
>> >> From: Ryan Krcelic <[email protected]>
>> >> To: Max Kamali <[email protected]>,    <[email protected]>
>> >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] PPP over Frame
>> >> Message-ID: <cc809149.118e%[email protected]>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="US-ASCII"
>> >>
>> >> It is, but in order to do that you have to set the ip address on the 
>> >> virtual
>> >> template to ip unnumbers to a loopback and set the IP on the loopback.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 9/20/12 9:13 AM, "Max Kamali" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> Is it possible to configure ppp over frame and for the local router to be
>> >>> able to ping its own ip address not just the other side?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Max
>> >>>
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>> >> V/r,
>> >>
>> >> Ryan Krcelic
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 3
>> >> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 06:33:10 +0000
>> >> From: Michael Davis - Webquor <[email protected]>
>> >> To: Max Kamali <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
>> >>    <[email protected]>
>> >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] PPP over Frame
>> >> Message-ID: <cc80f5df.15b33%[email protected]>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >>
>> >> Ip unnumbered.
>> >>
>> >> On 20/09/12 4:13 PM, "Max Kamali" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> Is it possible to configure ppp over frame and for the local router to be
>> >>> able to ping its own ip address not just the other side?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Max
>> >>>
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>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 4
>> >> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 12:36:03 +0530
>> >> From: Bhaskar Kumar <[email protected]>
>> >> To: Max Kamali <[email protected]>
>> >> Cc: [email protected]
>> >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] PPP over Frame
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >>    <CAFntb0qXKW+rO66giDWyAPa1BBfzbPYL_kddtO=q-lcbicq...@mail.gmail.com>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> >>
>> >> yes it is possible create a virtual-template over the frame-relay 
>> >> interface
>> >> and then do ip unnumbered on that virtual-template and then you will be
>> >> able to ping the the ip of the interface for which you did ip unnumbered .
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Max Kamali <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> Is it possible to configure ppp over frame and for the local router to be
>> >>> able to ping its own ip address not just the other side?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Max
>> >>>
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Bhaskar
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ------------------------------
>> >>
>> >> Message: 5
>> >> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:41:49 +0100 (BST)
>> >> From: JM NGOK <[email protected]>
>> >> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>,    "[email protected]"
>> >>    <[email protected]>
>> >> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] PPP over Frame
>> >> Message-ID:
>> >>    <[email protected]>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> >>
>> >> You can also bind the virtual template to a multilink group and ip 
>> >> unnumbered loopback on the multilink interface.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> JM
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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