Let me put it this way - I wouldn't feel comfortable going into the lab not knowing to at least look at the configuration of the Frame Relay switch. Knowing how to configure it would also be helpful.
-- Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor / Managing Partner - IPexpert On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Joe Schulte <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, I'm not sure what the confusion is in all this. > > You know all the stuff you need to know to deal with your routers, routing > protocols, and FR troubleshooting. > > You don't need to worry about configuring an FR switch. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 20, 2013, at 12:00 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > Send CCIE_RS mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of CCIE_RS digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: IP Expert LAB Topology (Dan Braun) > > 2. Re: IP Expert LAB Topology (Imran Ali) > > 3. IE Bootcamp at RTP (Rogelio Gamino) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 21:20:09 -0400 > > From: "Dan Braun" <[email protected]> > > To: "'Marko Milivojevic'" <[email protected]>, "'Jeremy Furr'" > > <[email protected]> > > Cc: 'OSL Routing and Switching' <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] IP Expert LAB Topology > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > > > What I keep trying to figure out is which specific FR tasks are "highly > unlikely" to appear on lab now that the dedicated frame switch is gone so > that I don't have to sweat the details on them. Many tasks such as the 10+ > different ways to configure FR traffic shaping, auto-install over frame, > bridging over frame, etc., in my opinion are very esoteric at this point in > time (i.e. I haven't seen them in the wild in YEARS) so I have a hard time > motivating myself to really understand the details and have been satisfied > knowing the "high level details" on some of these FR-specific tasks. Would > you suggest this is a bad game plan? > > > > Thanks, > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 5:35 PM > > To: Jeremy Furr > > Cc: OSL Routing and Switching > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] IP Expert LAB Topology > > > > A *dedicated* Frame Relay switch is not present in the configuration > section of the exam, which doesn't mean there's no FR switch in it. It just > means that one of the topology routers may double as a pre-configured or > unconfigured FR switch in it. > > > > In the troubleshooting section of the exam, a dedicated FR switch(es) > may still be there. > > > > For those two reasons, until FR is completely gone from the blueprint, > we won't be removing a dedicated FR switch from our topologies. In some of > our labs (like for example One Week Lab Experience labs), services of the > preconfigured switch are barely used and we ask students to configure one > of their routers as FR switches. > > > > And no - that doesn't mean you can stop worrying about the LIM. On the > contrary :-) > > > > -- > > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor / > Managing Partner - IPexpert > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Jeremy Furr <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> With the removal of the FR switch from the lab has IPexpert put out a > >> new topology to study with update scenarios? > >> > >> Thanks > >> Jeremy > >> _______________________________________________ > >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > >> please visit www.ipexpert.com > >> > >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com > >> > >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:45:52 +0300 > > From: Imran Ali <[email protected]> > > To: Dan Braun <[email protected]> > > Cc: OSL Routing and Switching <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] IP Expert LAB Topology > > Message-ID: > > <CAH7Egzc=awh3pvom74rubutlbbkgqc1z3i88csv5qtaonfj...@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > I am also in same boat as Dan , > > > > Though i am not saying i will completely skip FR hub and spoke topics , > but > > just lower them in priority so that i can focus more on core > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 4:20 AM, Dan Braun <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> What I keep trying to figure out is which specific FR tasks are "highly > >> unlikely" to appear on lab now that the dedicated frame switch is gone > so > >> that I don't have to sweat the details on them. Many tasks such as the > 10+ > >> different ways to configure FR traffic shaping, auto-install over frame, > >> bridging over frame, etc., in my opinion are very esoteric at this > point in > >> time (i.e. I haven't seen them in the wild in YEARS) so I have a hard > time > >> motivating myself to really understand the details and have been > satisfied > >> knowing the "high level details" on some of these FR-specific tasks. > Would > >> you suggest this is a bad game plan? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Dan > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:[email protected]] > >> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 5:35 PM > >> To: Jeremy Furr > >> Cc: OSL Routing and Switching > >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] IP Expert LAB Topology > >> > >> A *dedicated* Frame Relay switch is not present in the configuration > >> section of the exam, which doesn't mean there's no FR switch in it. It > just > >> means that one of the topology routers may double as a pre-configured or > >> unconfigured FR switch in it. > >> > >> In the troubleshooting section of the exam, a dedicated FR switch(es) > may > >> still be there. > >> > >> For those two reasons, until FR is completely gone from the blueprint, > we > >> won't be removing a dedicated FR switch from our topologies. In some of > our > >> labs (like for example One Week Lab Experience labs), services of the > >> preconfigured switch are barely used and we ask students to configure > one > >> of their routers as FR switches. > >> > >> And no - that doesn't mean you can stop worrying about the LIM. On the > >> contrary :-) > >> > >> -- > >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor / > Managing > >> Partner - IPexpert > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Jeremy Furr <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >>> With the removal of the FR switch from the lab has IPexpert put out a > >>> new topology to study with update scenarios? > >>> > >>> Thanks > >>> Jeremy > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > >>> please visit www.ipexpert.com > >>> > >>> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > >>> www.PlatinumPlacement.com > >>> > >>> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please > >> visit www.ipexpert.com > >> > >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com > >> > >> http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_rs > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:44:16 -0400 > > From: Rogelio Gamino <[email protected]> > > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Subject: [OSL | CCIE_RS] IE Bootcamp at RTP > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > I'm trying to get a feel for where people attending the Bootcamp in > April will be staying. > > > > Some people earlier this year recommended the Staybridge and Wingate. > Are restaurants nearby? I'm currently considering the Wingate. 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