pim nbma  has nothing to  do  with RPF .

only three parameters  matters  to RPF , igp unicast table , MBGP , mroutes.

" pim nbma "  is used for disable split horizon , similar  to any distance
vector split  horizon rule.

By default a router  includes the interface S 0/0  in OIL , after enabling
pim nbma it inclued based on  neighbors  ip's on that  interface. you will
see after S0/0  , an ip  address of remote dlci appear in  oil .

After enabling nbma , i always  reload the router router  :-)  .

The only thing to worry about here is spoke should not become ASSERT winner
on a hub and spoke topology  , as now  hub prunes back and  remaining
spokes which are only connected to hub will not get the feed.

further " pim nbma " does not work  with dense mode...


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Bob McCouch <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey Michael,
>
> I'm pretty certain you won't get a PIM adjacency up over a frame PVC that
> does not have pseudo-broadcast enabled. PIM uses 224.0.0.13 for neighbor
> discovery. And the multicast packets that PIM is routing most definitely
> need a broadcast-enabled frame PVC.
>
> The 'ip pim nbma-mode' is not related to whether PIM uses link-local
> multicast for neighbor discovery, rather it is used to deal with potential
> RPF issues in a frame-relay hub and spoke network. If the hub receives a
> multicast packet from a spoke off of the frame-relay link on Serial1/0, for
> example, it would not be able to forward that same packet back out to
> another spoke neighbor off the same interface as the interface the packet
> was received on (the RPF interface) cannot be included in the OIL for the
> group (as that would indicate an automatic RPF violation).
>
> 'ip pim nbma-mode' simply allows the router to include the actual PIM
> neighbor ID rather than the interface in the OIL so that the router can
> "hairpin" the multicast packet and send it back out to spokes other than
> the one it was received by.
>
> Can you get PIM and multicast across a non-broadcast frame-relay link? Sure
> -- that's what tunnels are for ;-)
>
> Good luck on your lab!
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:03 AM, Michael Davis - Webquor <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone – I am working on multicast which is my biggest weakness
> > leading up to the lab next week.  I am trying to get a PIM adjacency
> over a
> > non broadcast frame-relay connection.  It is not coming up.  Can someone
> > please explain if it is possible and why the command "ip pim nbma-mode"
> is
> > necessary on non-broadcast networks?  The command doesn't seem to do
> > anything to be honest.  I suppose the big question is can I establish a
> PIM
> > adjacency over a frame-relay connection where no broadcast capability is
> > enabled?
> >
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