Oh I'm not at all surprised about SP'ss reluctance to use MD5 on the
session. Use your Google-fu to search for attack vectors using it and also
some phenomenal NANOG presentations why it's useless and causes more harm
than good :-). In that sense, on external sessions, "ttl-security hops 255"
is much more efficient and secure than using the MD5 protection :-)

Good question about the RST. What happened when you labbed it up? ;-)

[ this has nothing to do with the lab any longer ]

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On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Bob McCouch <[email protected]> wrote:

> The value of TTL security is not that it "scopes" your BGP advertisements,
> quite the opposite. It's an anti-spoofing technique. By default, EBGP
> packets have a TTL of 1 to limit their scope to the local segment. However,
> an attacker could spoof a TCP RST from anywhere on the Internet that
> appears to come from your neighbor to kill your session. BGP TTL security
> addresses this by setting the TTL up to 255 (which in theory means the
> "scope" of the advertisement is much larger), but requires that the
> received packet have a TTL of 255-(hops). So if you say "ttl-security hops
> 1" then it means the received BGP messages must have an IP TTL of 254 (or
> higher as Marko pointed out).
>
>  It's pretty easy to spoof a packet and have it land with a TTL of 1 at
> your target. But it's very hard to spoof a packet from across the Internet
> and have it land at your target with a TTL of 254. That's what TTL security
> does for you.
>
> That said, I've never used it in production. It's usually enough of a
> battle to get an ISP to actually put an MD5 on the session...
>
> A spoofed packet could get past ACLs. I'm not sure off hand if the TCP RST
> has to have the MD5 on it or not to get processed and reset the connection.
> Anyone know that?
>
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