Hi Vik,

Excellent -- thanks for that.

Best regards

Mick

E: m...@pobox.net.uk

> From: Vik Malhi <vma...@ipexpert.com>
> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:55:55 -0700
> To: Mick Vaites <m...@pobox.net.uk>, OSL Group
> <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] auto qos
> 
> The "fr-atm" bit in the auto qos command will force the router to use mlp
> lfi (VT) as opposed to using FRF.12 so long as the bw =< 768kbps
> 
> With ATM-FR Service Interworkings FRF.12 is not an option and that is why
> auto qos makes this radical decision (to use MLP LFI). We are telling the
> router the other end is an ATM pipe and it believes us and proceeds by
> configuring the VT along with the rest of the garbage.
> 
> If bw > 786kbps then LFI is not necessary and only LLQ/FRTS will be
> configured.
> 
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>> From: Mick Vaites <m...@pobox.net.uk>
>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:49:19 +0100
>> To: Vik Malhi <vma...@ipexpert.com>, OSL Group
>> <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] auto qos
>> 
>> Thanks for that.
>> 
>> Yup sorry it was off the top of my head (my previous post was such a mess).
>> 
>> I'm still a little lost on the "auto qos voip fr-atm" though. How do you
>> make it generate the virtual-templates etc ? From the PG it looks like you
>> can set the b/w and just enter the auto qos command.
>> 
>> I'm using 12.4.22T
>> 
>> Whilst one of the guys I've worked with swears by auto qos as it creates a
>> good foundation to get QoS up and running. I've never used it much as it
>> always seems to create loads of bits I didn't need. That said if it's going
>> to speed things up in the lab I'm keen to get to grips with it.
>> 
>> Best regards and thanks for you patience.
>> 
>> Mick
>> 
>> E: m...@pobox.net.uk
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Vik Malhi <vma...@ipexpert.com>
>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:13:39 -0700
>>> To: Mick Vaites <m...@pobox.net.uk>, OSL Group
>>> <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] auto qos
>>> 
>>> We used auto qos when we produced the solutions. Your config that you posted
>>> is pretty much the same as what auto qos voip fr-atm does except the
>>> service-policy to invoke LLQ should be applied to the VT. Another important
>>> ingredient within auto qos is FRTS on the physical interface.
>>> -- 
>>> Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890
>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>> 
>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
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>>> 
>>>> From: Mick Vaites <m...@pobox.net.uk>
>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:55:29 +0100
>>>> To: Mick Vaites <m...@pobox.net.uk>, Vik Malhi <vma...@ipexpert.com>, OSL
>>>> Group <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] auto qos
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry that doesn't read right --
>>>> 
>>>> The solution for MLP I was looking at was something like this ... I
>>>> couldn't
>>>> see how the auto qos commands would give you the same thing.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Int Serial0/0/1:0.1 point-to-point
>>>>   frame-relay interface-dlci 202 ppp virtual-template 1
>>>>   class DLCI_202
>>>> 
>>>> Int Virtual-template 1
>>>>   ip address 10.10.112.1 255.255.255.0
>>>>   ppp multi interleave
>>>>   ppp multi fragment
>>>> 
>>>> Map-class fr DLCI_202
>>>>   frame cir 729600
>>>>   frame mincir 729600
>>>>   frame bc 7296
>>>>   frame be 0
>>>>   service-policy output POLICY
>>>> 
>>>> Policy-map POLICY
>>>>   class VOICE
>>>>    etc
>>>>   class SIGNAL
>>>>    etc
>>>>   class BIZZTRAFFIC
>>>>    etc
>>>>   class class-default
>>>>    etc
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards
>>>> 
>>>> Mick
>>>> 
>>>> E: m...@pobox.net.uk
>>>> T: +44(0)1626 323592
>>>> M: +44(0)77255 18156
>>>> F: +44(0)1626 323591
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Mick Vaites <m...@pobox.net.uk>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:28:46 +0100
>>>>> To: Vik Malhi <vma...@ipexpert.com>, Jonathan Charles <jonv...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Cc: OSL Group <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>,
>>>>> <ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] auto qos
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Vik,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I saw the "auto qos voip fr-atm" in the proctors guide and was wondering
>>>>> about this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm probably doing something wrong but my solution was to create
>>>>> Virtual-template then apply multilink PPP + fragment/inter afterwards. -
>>>>> along with map-class/policy-map/class-map with the defined parameters
>>>>> applied.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well I've just cleaned the config back to initial configs and then tried
>>>>> the
>>>>> "auto qos voip fr-atm" within the interface-dlci and it created a
>>>>> map-class/class-map/policy-map/rmon -- but I'm not sure how MLP-LFI comes
>>>>> in.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry if I'm being thick here ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mick
>>>>> 
>>>>> E: m...@pobox.net.uk
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Vik Malhi <vma...@ipexpert.com>
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:20:33 -0700
>>>>>> To: Jonathan Charles <jonv...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Cc: OSL Group <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>,
>>>>>> <ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] auto qos
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you have FRTS enabled on the physical interface (WAN) at HQ which is
>>>>>> used
>>>>>> for the 2 x PVC's to each of the branch sites then the default CIR is
>>>>>> 56kbps
>>>>>> and the default MINCIR is 28kbps. This will have MAJOR repercussions for
>>>>>> your branch sites.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You should ensure a frame-relay map-class is used to set CIR/MINCIR/BC/BE
>>>>>> for BOTH PVC's. The auto-qos macros will only attach a map-class to the
>>>>>> DLCI
>>>>>> where you are configuring auto-qos.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Use "show frame-relay pvc XXX" to confirm cir/mincir. |
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890
>>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>>>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>>>>>> Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: Jonathan Charles <jonv...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:58:39 -0500
>>>>>>> To: Vik Malhi <vma...@ipexpert.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: c george <cisco...@hotmail.com>, OSL Group
>>>>>>> <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>,
>>>>>>> <ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] auto qos
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On this same subject, is it possible for the auto qos voip fr-atm to
>>>>>>> create a queue that will starve out all other traffic and destroy your
>>>>>>> network?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Vik Malhi<vma...@ipexpert.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yep- ³auto qos voip fr-atm² within the DLCI will configure MLP LFI.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Vik Malhi ­ CCIE #13890
>>>>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>>>>>>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130
>>>>>>>> Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Join our free online support and peer group communities:
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>>>>>>>> Lab Certifications.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: c george <cisco...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:12:34 +0000
>>>>>>>> To: OSL Group <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>,
>>>>>>>> <ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] auto qos
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If you are instructed in the lab not to use fr.12, is there any way you
>>>>>>>> could still use auto qos?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Respectfully Charles George
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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