Hi Vik, Excellent -- thanks for that.
Best regards Mick E: m...@pobox.net.uk > From: Vik Malhi <vma...@ipexpert.com> > Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:55:55 -0700 > To: Mick Vaites <m...@pobox.net.uk>, OSL Group > <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com> > Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] auto qos > > The "fr-atm" bit in the auto qos command will force the router to use mlp > lfi (VT) as opposed to using FRF.12 so long as the bw =< 768kbps > > With ATM-FR Service Interworkings FRF.12 is not an option and that is why > auto qos makes this radical decision (to use MLP LFI). We are telling the > router the other end is an ATM pipe and it believes us and proceeds by > configuring the VT along with the rest of the garbage. > > If bw > 786kbps then LFI is not necessary and only LLQ/FRTS will be > configured. > > -- > Vik Malhi CCIE #13890 > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. > > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 > Fax: +1.810.454.0130 > Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com > > > Join our free online support and peer group communities: > http://www.IPexpert.com/communities > IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based, Video-On-Demand > and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE R&S Lab, CCIE > Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage > Lab Certifications. > > > > > > > >> From: Mick Vaites <m...@pobox.net.uk> >> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:49:19 +0100 >> To: Vik Malhi <vma...@ipexpert.com>, OSL Group >> <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com> >> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] auto qos >> >> Thanks for that. >> >> Yup sorry it was off the top of my head (my previous post was such a mess). >> >> I'm still a little lost on the "auto qos voip fr-atm" though. How do you >> make it generate the virtual-templates etc ? From the PG it looks like you >> can set the b/w and just enter the auto qos command. >> >> I'm using 12.4.22T >> >> Whilst one of the guys I've worked with swears by auto qos as it creates a >> good foundation to get QoS up and running. I've never used it much as it >> always seems to create loads of bits I didn't need. That said if it's going >> to speed things up in the lab I'm keen to get to grips with it. >> >> Best regards and thanks for you patience. >> >> Mick >> >> E: m...@pobox.net.uk >> >> >> >>> From: Vik Malhi <vma...@ipexpert.com> >>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:13:39 -0700 >>> To: Mick Vaites <m...@pobox.net.uk>, OSL Group >>> <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com> >>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] auto qos >>> >>> We used auto qos when we produced the solutions. Your config that you posted >>> is pretty much the same as what auto qos voip fr-atm does except the >>> service-policy to invoke LLQ should be applied to the VT. Another important >>> ingredient within auto qos is FRTS on the physical interface. >>> -- >>> Vik Malhi CCIE #13890 >>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. >>> >>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 >>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130 >>> Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com >>> >>> >>> Join our free online support and peer group communities: >>> http://www.IPexpert.com/communities >>> IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based, Video-On-Demand >>> and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE R&S Lab, CCIE >>> Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage >>> Lab Certifications. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: Mick Vaites <m...@pobox.net.uk> >>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:55:29 +0100 >>>> To: Mick Vaites <m...@pobox.net.uk>, Vik Malhi <vma...@ipexpert.com>, OSL >>>> Group <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] auto qos >>>> >>>> Sorry that doesn't read right -- >>>> >>>> The solution for MLP I was looking at was something like this ... I >>>> couldn't >>>> see how the auto qos commands would give you the same thing. >>>> >>>> >>>> Int Serial0/0/1:0.1 point-to-point >>>> frame-relay interface-dlci 202 ppp virtual-template 1 >>>> class DLCI_202 >>>> >>>> Int Virtual-template 1 >>>> ip address 10.10.112.1 255.255.255.0 >>>> ppp multi interleave >>>> ppp multi fragment >>>> >>>> Map-class fr DLCI_202 >>>> frame cir 729600 >>>> frame mincir 729600 >>>> frame bc 7296 >>>> frame be 0 >>>> service-policy output POLICY >>>> >>>> Policy-map POLICY >>>> class VOICE >>>> etc >>>> class SIGNAL >>>> etc >>>> class BIZZTRAFFIC >>>> etc >>>> class class-default >>>> etc >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> >>>> Mick >>>> >>>> E: m...@pobox.net.uk >>>> T: +44(0)1626 323592 >>>> M: +44(0)77255 18156 >>>> F: +44(0)1626 323591 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: Mick Vaites <m...@pobox.net.uk> >>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 18:28:46 +0100 >>>>> To: Vik Malhi <vma...@ipexpert.com>, Jonathan Charles <jonv...@gmail.com> >>>>> Cc: OSL Group <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>, >>>>> <ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] auto qos >>>>> >>>>> Hi Vik, >>>>> >>>>> I saw the "auto qos voip fr-atm" in the proctors guide and was wondering >>>>> about this. >>>>> >>>>> I'm probably doing something wrong but my solution was to create >>>>> Virtual-template then apply multilink PPP + fragment/inter afterwards. - >>>>> along with map-class/policy-map/class-map with the defined parameters >>>>> applied. >>>>> >>>>> Well I've just cleaned the config back to initial configs and then tried >>>>> the >>>>> "auto qos voip fr-atm" within the interface-dlci and it created a >>>>> map-class/class-map/policy-map/rmon -- but I'm not sure how MLP-LFI comes >>>>> in. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry if I'm being thick here ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Best regards >>>>> >>>>> Mick >>>>> >>>>> E: m...@pobox.net.uk >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: Vik Malhi <vma...@ipexpert.com> >>>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 10:20:33 -0700 >>>>>> To: Jonathan Charles <jonv...@gmail.com> >>>>>> Cc: OSL Group <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>, >>>>>> <ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] auto qos >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have FRTS enabled on the physical interface (WAN) at HQ which is >>>>>> used >>>>>> for the 2 x PVC's to each of the branch sites then the default CIR is >>>>>> 56kbps >>>>>> and the default MINCIR is 28kbps. This will have MAJOR repercussions for >>>>>> your branch sites. >>>>>> >>>>>> You should ensure a frame-relay map-class is used to set CIR/MINCIR/BC/BE >>>>>> for BOTH PVC's. The auto-qos macros will only attach a map-class to the >>>>>> DLCI >>>>>> where you are configuring auto-qos. >>>>>> >>>>>> Use "show frame-relay pvc XXX" to confirm cir/mincir. | >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Vik Malhi CCIE #13890 >>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 >>>>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130 >>>>>> Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Join our free online support and peer group communities: >>>>>> http://www.IPexpert.com/communities >>>>>> IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based, >>>>>> Video-On-Demand >>>>>> and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE R&S Lab, CCIE >>>>>> Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE Storage >>>>>> Lab Certifications. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Jonathan Charles <jonv...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 11:58:39 -0500 >>>>>>> To: Vik Malhi <vma...@ipexpert.com> >>>>>>> Cc: c george <cisco...@hotmail.com>, OSL Group >>>>>>> <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>, >>>>>>> <ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] auto qos >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On this same subject, is it possible for the auto qos voip fr-atm to >>>>>>> create a queue that will starve out all other traffic and destroy your >>>>>>> network? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jonathan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Vik Malhi<vma...@ipexpert.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Yep- ³auto qos voip fr-atm² within the DLCI will configure MLP LFI. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Vik Malhi CCIE #13890 >>>>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert, Inc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 >>>>>>>> Fax: +1.810.454.0130 >>>>>>>> Mailto: vma...@ipexpert.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Join our free online support and peer group communities: >>>>>>>> http://www.IPexpert.com/communities >>>>>>>> IPexpert - The Global Leader in Self-Study, Classroom-Based, >>>>>>>> Video-On-Demand >>>>>>>> and Audio Certification Training Tools for the Cisco CCIE R&S Lab, CCIE >>>>>>>> Security Lab, CCIE Service Provider Lab , CCIE Voice Lab and CCIE >>>>>>>> Storage >>>>>>>> Lab Certifications. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>> From: c george <cisco...@hotmail.com> >>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:12:34 +0000 >>>>>>>> To: OSL Group <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>, >>>>>>>> <ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com> >>>>>>>> Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] auto qos >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you are instructed in the lab not to use fr.12, is there any way you >>>>>>>> could still use auto qos? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Respectfully Charles George >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>> NEW mobile Hotmail. 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