Here's what I have in my notes on QOS BW calculations.  I also included
a formula for LFI when using FRF.12..... 

The bandwidth is calculated as follows for Frame Relay:

L2 overhead= 11 bytes
IP/UDP/RTP= 2 bytes
G729= 20 bytes

Total= 33 bytes per packet
bits per packet= 8
50 packets per second

so 33 X 8 X 50 = 13.2kbps (round up to 14Kbps per call)
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LFI Calculation:

When using FRF.12 ("auto qos voip" or "auto qos voip trust") you will
need to calculate the actual fragment size in Bytes using the following
formula:

Fragment size=(PVC Link speed X 10ms) divided by 8

Example (56k X 10) divided by 8 = 70 Bytes
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Today's Topics:

   1. Is this workable for the lab (Pithog Oil)
   2. Re: QoS bandwidth calculations (Daniel Berlinski)
   3. Service URLs (Brian Valentine)
   4. Unable to reload the CUE license file (David Lee)
   5. Re: Service URLs (Miron Kobelski)
   6. SIP phones and CUCM again (Duncan Hamilton-Walker)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:47:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pithog Oil <pithog...@yahoo.com>
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Is this workable for the lab
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putting my CFA CSS ACTIVATION POLICY to with activating device/line css 

so i will not need to use css whenever am doing a voicemail config or
CFUR.

Pithog oil


      
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 10:08:58 +1200
From: Daniel Berlinski <dberlin...@gmail.com>
To: "Stutz, Bernhard" <st...@pandacom.de>
Cc: OSL Group <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QoS bandwidth calculations
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As a suggestion I would check for the overheads sizing at page 33 of QoS
SRND and for the formulas I would check UCM7 SRND page 134
HTH
Daniel

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:44 AM, Stutz, Bernhard <st...@pandacom.de>
wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> that's what i found at proctorlabs solutions. That's why i am asking,
i
> want to know for sure how to calculate these values.
>
> cheers,
> Bernhard
>
> ------------------------------
> *Von:* Trying 2nd CCIE [mailto:dukelon...@gmail.com]
> *Gesendet:* Sa 14.08.2010 15:41
> *An:* Stutz, Bernhard
> *Cc:* OSL Group
> *Betreff:* Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QoS bandwidth calculations
>
> Hi,
>
> What about the default 10ms sampling rate? What is the calculation
formula?
>
> Thanks and Regards,
> John
>
> On 14 August 2010 21:36, Stutz, Bernhard <st...@pandacom.de> wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>> Has somebody found an overview of actual bandwidth consumption
including
>> L2 overhead per packet?
>>
>> What i know so far is following:
>>
>> all at 20ms sampling rate
>> When FRF.12 LFI and RTP:
>>  L2 (FR)  = 7 bytes
>>  IP/UDP/RTP = 40 bytes
>> ilbc codec =38 bytes
>>
>>  When FRF.12 LFI and cRTP:
>> L2(FR) = 7bytes
>> IP/UDP/RTP = 2bytes
>>  G729 codec = 20 bytes
>>
>> when MLP LFI and cRTP:
>> L2(FR) = 9bytes
>> IP/UDP/RTP = 2bytes
>> G729 codec = 20 bytes
>>
>>
>> cheers,
>> Bernhard
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> visit www.ipexpert.com
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>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:43:09 -0400
From: Brian Valentine <bkvalent...@gmail.com>
To: OSL Group <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Service URLs
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All,

I've been trying to improve my speed in general... but specifically in
looking up things that I might need in the lab exam.  This evening,
I've been working on reviewing where to find all the Service URLs.
Most are too cryptic to memorize.  So... assuming you don't have these
memorized, where would you go to look up the following service URLs
during the exam?  BTW, I have my answers, but want to see what others
say to compare with where I found these.  Maybe you know of a quicker
way to look up one or more of these.

1) Extension Mobility
2) IPMA (IP Manager Assistant)
3) IPPA (IP Phone Agent)
4) IPPA - One touch login
5) IPPM (IP Phone Messenger
6) VoiceView Express (CUE)

Secondary question: Am I missing any?  Are there any other IP Phone
Services that would be fair game in the lab exam? The only other one I
can think of off hand is the VoiceView for CUC, but that requires
another server.  Does anyone think it could be considered a testable
topic?

Brian Valentine


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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 23:31:08 -0400
From: David Lee <d16...@gmail.com>
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Unable to reload the CUE license file
Message-ID:
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Hello,

I got the error "Online install/download is not allowed due to
insufficient
FLASH capacity" when attempting to update the CUE license file.  I tried
to
do a software reinstall via bootflash, thinking that it would clear the
flash, but the error still remained.

Can anyone advise what else can be done in this case?

Thanks,

-Dave
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 09:05:07 +0200
From: Miron Kobelski <findko...@gmail.com>
To: Brian Valentine <bkvalent...@gmail.com>
Cc: OSL Group <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Service URLs
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Hi Brian,

these are the quickest methods to get those URLs that I am aware of. I
can't
check the locations exactly now, as I'm not in the lab, but you should
be
able to find them:

1) Extension Mobility

CUCM Help > search for "extension mobility checklist"

2) IPMA (IP Manager Assistant)

CUCM Help > search for "ipma checklist"

3) IPPA (IP Phone Agent)

cisco.com > UCCX support page > configuration examples > IPPA one-button
login

4) IPPA - One touch login

cisco.com > UCCX support page > configuration examples > IPPA one-button
login

5) IPPM (IP Phone Messenger)

SRND (search PDF for IPPM)

6) VoiceView Express (CUE)

go to CLI and run "show voicemail voiceview" (or similar) or go to GUI >
Voiceview configuration page (URLs are listed there)

hth
kobel

On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 1:43 AM, Brian Valentine
<bkvalent...@gmail.com>wrote:

> All,
>
> I've been trying to improve my speed in general... but specifically in
> looking up things that I might need in the lab exam.  This evening,
> I've been working on reviewing where to find all the Service URLs.
> Most are too cryptic to memorize.  So... assuming you don't have these
> memorized, where would you go to look up the following service URLs
> during the exam?  BTW, I have my answers, but want to see what others
> say to compare with where I found these.  Maybe you know of a quicker
> way to look up one or more of these.
>
> 1) Extension Mobility
> 2) IPMA (IP Manager Assistant)
> 3) IPPA (IP Phone Agent)
> 4) IPPA - One touch login
> 5) IPPM (IP Phone Messenger
> 6) VoiceView Express (CUE)
>
> Secondary question: Am I missing any?  Are there any other IP Phone
> Services that would be fair game in the lab exam? The only other one I
> can think of off hand is the VoiceView for CUC, but that requires
> another server.  Does anyone think it could be considered a testable
> topic?
>
> Brian Valentine
> _______________________________________________
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
please
> visit www.ipexpert.com
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 12:44:23 +0100
From: "Duncan Hamilton-Walker" <dun...@rosethorn.plus.com>
To: <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] SIP phones and CUCM again
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Can someone please tell me why my SIP phones keep registering and
unregistering themselves every  10-20 seconds

 

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