For your second sub interface I would assign bandwidth 1536, also if you don't 
want to build a map class for the second interface you can assign the bandwidth 
1536 and let auto-qos do the rest.

BACD
In the lab you have access to the CME Docs, it is here where you can find the 
BACD doc and  cli commands.

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Today's Topics:

   1. QOS LFI and BACD files (AJ BG)
   2. Lab Grading (Vega Wong)
   3. Test LAB Upgrade from Cisco CVP 4.1 to CVP 8.0 (darshan)
   4. Re: Test LAB Upgrade from Cisco CVP 4.1 to CVP    8.0
      (Emanuel Damasceno)
   5. Re: Lab Grading (Chris Martin)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 22:02:37 -0800
From: AJ BG <ciscoie2...@gmail.com>
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] QOS LFI and BACD files
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      Hello,
       1.       QOS question

According to Vic, if you configure LFI for a subinterface in a hub and spoke 
environment, Your second sub interface will dopes its CIR to 56k. To solve this 
issue you should configure map-class for the second interface as well. I have 
tested this and confirmed the problem and the solution.

 But if the interface bandwidth is not given to you, then in what rate do you 
configure the second map-class? What should be your CIR and MinCIR bandwidth?



2.       BACD question

will it be possible that the lab requirement will be  to configure BACD without 
giving you direct access to the BACD files? If the above scenario happen then 
how would you copy the files into the router. I am thinking to use CUCM. But 
can you even go to Cisco?s website and download BACD tar file during the exam? 
Any suggestion?
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 22:33:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Vega Wong <vega2...@yahoo.com.au>
To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab Grading
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Hi all

First of all, let me clarify that I am not trying to break NDA or trying to 
sell anything here, just something I cant get my head around with.

I just had my second attmpt yesterday, and I failed. What really demoralising 
for me is that I thought I was fully prepared. What even more demoralising is 
that when I looked at the score card, I didnt get 100% in the area I thought I 
would get a 100%.

I dont mean to say I know it all (especially now), but there are areas on my 
score card that really shocks me. As I read through the exam, I know what the 
questions were requiring (at least I thought I did). For example, we all know 
that the topics of DHCP, NTP, VLAN will be in the network infrastructure area. 
And what could go wrong in those areas? I mean, if you dont setup those area 
correctly, all your subsequence config will has problem right? But yet, I dont 
get full marks in those. Similarly the gateway area, QoS area etc.

Right now I am pretty lost as to what I can prepare or study on, or at least 
how to check my config? I know this sounds really bad (or arrogent) but I 
really have no idea as how to confirm the config I did can get the full mark in 
those area.

I guess I am hoping if someone that share their strategy as to how to confirm 
their work is good or fulfilled the requirement?

hope that makes sense?



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 14:58:50 +0300
From: darshan <ccievoice0...@hotmail.com>
To: <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>
Subject: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Test LAB Upgrade from Cisco CVP 4.1 to CVP
        8.0
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Dear All;



We have a test LAB with CVP 4.1 and we want to upgrade it to CVP 8.0.



Could you please help me with some documents or step by step procedure to 
accomplish this.



Regards

Darsh

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:19:12 -0200
From: Emanuel Damasceno <aedamasc...@gmail.com>
To: darshan <ccievoice0...@hotmail.com>
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Test LAB Upgrade from Cisco CVP 4.1 to
        CVP     8.0
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Hey Darsh,

I am involved in a project that is doing upgrade from 4.1 to 8.5. What do you 
mean by CVP? Cisco Voice Products? :)

Well, I hope that's what I understood. I am involved in an upgrade process and 
we're doing CUCM 4.1.3 first. You need DMA 7.1.5 and CUCM 7.1.5. The DMA will 
make an Export of your CUCM Database, and give you a file that you can use when 
you install CUCM 7.1.5.

You can't go straight from 4.1.3 to 8.0, so you have to go first to 7.1.5 or 
7.0.2 (depending on which version you have, the DMA HAS to be the the SAME 
version as CUCM's, for example, if you are using CUCM 7.0(2), you will have to 
use DMA 7.0(2) and so on).

Set up a FTP or SFTP server, and leave it for now. Execute DMA on PUBLISHER 
CUCM. If you use 7.1.5, it will tell you which steps you should take before 
doing the DMA Export. This is where you must have a CUCM with nothing that 
would take it out of conformity. Here in Brazil we have special characters, 
characters that screw our lives up when it comes to upgrading CUCMs or anything 
else non-Cisco related. Our special characters are "?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, and so 
on..." I hope you don't have to deal with that kind of crap. It's not nice when 
you have to deal with over 40k entries with special characters in it.

Make sure all device profiles are associated to its respective device and user. 
If you have any device profile not associated with a user/device, it will give 
you a warning. Also make sure all Users have their own Directory number 
associated to them. If the users don't have a number associated
(NULL) it will also give you an warning. You should take care of all warnings 
before using the TAR file for upgrading the CUCM.

There are 3 options that DMA will give you:
Export - Successful - Validation - Failed (DMA won't give you any files for it. 
But it will give you a list of errors CUCM has, so you can fix it) Export - 
Successful - Validation - Successful with Warnings (DMA will give you a file, 
but you MUST address to all warnings it gave you or when you install CUCM 7, it 
won't let you go through with installation. It's just a waste of time, just go 
and fix all the warnings you may have.
Export - Successful - Validation - Successful (This is what you should
expect!!!!)

Copy that file to your SFTP server.

Start installing CUCM 7.1.5. On the prompts, you say you want to use a DMA 
file. It will ask you for the Server IP address and file location. Point and 
install.

When you finish those, let me know so I can write down how you do it from
7.1.5 to 8.0 or 8.5.

Best regards
*Emanuel Damasceno*
CCNP Voice





On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:58 AM, darshan <ccievoice0...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Dear All;****
>
> ** **
>
> We have a test LAB with CVP 4.1 and we want to upgrade it to CVP
> 8.0.****
>
> ** **
>
> Could you please help me with some documents or step by step procedure
> to accomplish this.****
>
> ** **
>
> Regards****
>
> Darsh****
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 09:22:04 -0600
From: Chris Martin <clm.c...@gmail.com>
To: Vega Wong <vega2...@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com
Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab Grading
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It is definitely tough, I know I felt pretty lost too after my first attempt.  
For me taking a couple weeks off and going back 6 weeks later helped immensely. 
I felt I knew the technology and had the speed to succeed, so instead of doing 
a bunch of 8 hour labs, I really focused on how to verify each and every topic. 
 I also worked on my initial first 30 minute routine, knowing exactly what you 
will do, what type of info you want to capture and allow yourself to get into 
rhythm.  About a week prior I did run through three to four 8 hour labs just to 
make sure I didnt lose any of my speed.

Do not take any section for granted, by the time we are ready for the lab, we 
all know NTP, Vlans or DHCP.. I remember finding one of my routers I forgot to 
do NTP config, luckily I had enough time to go through and verify each question 
and caught several mistakes.  Verify everything.

If you are unsure how to verify a section then use the time between now and 
your next attempt to focus on that.  For example of things I would check for 
infrastructure:

VLANS:
show vlan or show vlan-sw    <-- Are my vlans created?  Active state?
show ip interface brief | ex un (routers) <-- Do my vlans / subinterfaces have 
ip addresses?
show interface status (switch) <-- Are my interfaces shutdown?
show run interface *trunk-interface* <-- trunk - Is the trunk port setup 
correctly?
show run interface *phone-interfaces* <-- Do I have to setup the phone ports? I 
use access ports for switch / trunk ports for routers.
show cdp <-- is cdp running?  are we advertising v2 for phones?
show cdp nei <-- Do I see my phones / servers / routers?

IOS DHCP:
show ip dhcp bind  <-- Are my phones getting IP's?  Do I have any static 
requirement?
show run | s dhcp <-- Did I setup my tftp-servers correctly?
Default-gateway? (if phones having an issue, I personally put the wrong ip here 
on 1st attempt)

CUCM DHCP:
Verify IP address of phones when they auto reg if able otherwise manually 
Create an interface vlan on switch in voice vlan then "ip address dhcp"
this confirms CUCM is assigning IP's and the phones don't just have their IP 
stored from another day..

IOS NTP/Time:
show ntp assoc - Am I synched to whom I am suppose to be?
show run | s clock - Did I remember to setup any timezones I needed?

CUCM NTP:
ssh to pub / sub - utils ntp assoc <-- PUB synched with whom it is suppose to 
be? SUB still synched with PUB?

Now these are really the basics I would do every lab because you are guaranteed 
to have these topics, mock or otherwise.  You want to be able to do this for 
all sections, know ways to verify as many things as you can and hopefully you 
complete the exam with enough time to use them.  I personally did very light 
verification while configuring, once I had enough done I would verify 
everything from question 1 on. This does depend on how much time you have left, 
I had around 2 hours.

HTH,
Chris

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 12:33 AM, Vega Wong <vega2...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> First of all, let me clarify that I am not trying to break NDA or
> trying to sell anything here, just something I cant get my head around with.
>
> I just had my second attmpt yesterday, and I failed. What really
> demoralising for me is that I thought I was fully prepared. What even
> more demoralising is that when I looked at the score card, I didnt get
> 100% in the area I thought I would get a 100%.
>
> I dont mean to say I know it all (especially now), but there are areas
> on my score card that really shocks me. As I read through the exam, I
> know what the questions were requiring (at least I thought I did). For
> example, we all know that the topics of DHCP, NTP, VLAN will be in the
> network infrastructure area. And what could go wrong in those areas? I
> mean, if you dont setup those area correctly, all your subsequence
> config will has problem right? But yet, I dont get full marks in
> those. Similarly the gateway area, QoS area etc.
>
> Right now I am pretty lost as to what I can prepare or study on, or at
> least how to check my config? I know this sounds really bad (or
> arrogent) but I really have no idea as how to confirm the config I did
> can get the full mark in those area.
>
> I guess I am hoping if someone that share their strategy as to how to
> confirm their work is good or fulfilled the requirement?
>
> hope that makes sense?
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training,
> please visit www.ipexpert.com
>
> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out
> www.PlatinumPlacement.com
>
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