This is awesome news still holding my breath till it becomes official on the Cisco's website, I am now even prouder to be part of this community, a group of people who articulated so well what was wrong, and gave all the right reasons why it should be corrected.
I got many grey hairs the past week. -----Original Message----- From: ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com [mailto:ccie_voice-boun...@onlinestudylist.com] On Behalf Of ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:04 PM To: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: CCIE_Voice Digest, Vol 88, Issue 36 Send CCIE_Voice mailing list submissions to ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://onlinestudylist.com/mailman/listinfo/ccie_voice or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com You can reach the person managing the list at ccie_voice-ow...@onlinestudylist.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of CCIE_Voice digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration (nielsenj) 2. Re: Lab strategy (Somphol Boonjing) 3. Re: Lab strategy (Bill Lake) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 18:35:51 -0500 From: nielsenj <niels...@gmail.com> To: michael.se...@compucom.com Cc: ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Cisco: Provide a reasonable transition path from CCIE Voice to CCIE Collaboration Message-ID: <caclo9kygnnnpa+bat29sx0srzr-mgmm1yjrt4jkw1yr9qa7...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Just got this in my email: Hi All, Great news! Cisco has made the following announcement: "We are listening to the feedback from our valued CCIE community, and will be adjusting the https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_collaborationCCIE Collaboration requirements. As a quick preview of the evolution of the CCIE Collaboration certification, a current holder of the https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/ccie_voice CCIE Voice designation will now be able to migrate to a CCIE Collaboration credential by taking the CCIE Collaboration written exam only. We appreciate all of the great feedback and patience of the community while we update our webpages to reflect this change. We will be communicating further details about this modification as soon as possible." https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968 https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/docs/DOC-20968 Regards, Rigo Cisco Learning Network Moderator Jason Nielsen On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 12:02 PM, <michael.se...@compucom.com> wrote: > If you haven't already done so please sign this petition: > http://chn.ge/17A0zXE > > Michael Sears, CCIE(V)#38404 > "Designing and Implementing Cisco Unified Communications on Unified > Computing Systems" > > > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: </archives/ccie_voice/attachments/20130605/bfbcef1c/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 10:03:14 +1000 From: Somphol Boonjing <somp...@gmail.com> To: Martin Sloan <martinsloa...@gmail.com> Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>, singh <singh8...@in.com>, ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab strategy Message-ID: <cabcktng9rxp6mouzcouq5uukrfzmfa1nod7+ze0hn1obwd0...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Just my personal experience when I failed my first lab attempt. CUE is at the forefront of the time waster. Simply because it requires constant reboot if mistake is made and every reboots take a long time too. >> 10 ) CUE integration and trafer setup takes 20 mins My brain seems to go numb at times too. Simple stuff becomes a lot harder, and I still looking back on the day as how on earth I miss that easy fix. Not saying that without it I would pass, I just think I wouldn't the thoroughly outclassed by it. Regards, --Somphol. --Somphol On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Martin Sloan <martinsloa...@gmail.com>wrote: > Let me say, I've never sat the lab so I'm just commenting on my own > study experience. > > - Points 3 & 4 are probably consuming too much time. Documenting > IP's is good but I don't currently go through and check configs. I > figure i'll get to it when it's time to configure that piece and if > there are issues I'll do my troubleshooting then. > - 1.5hrs for Br2 seems like a long time. I think you can get quicker > with that part and do it in 45min or less, depending on the complexity. > > Just with those savings you're getting closer to your 6 hour goal. I > use notepad for anything that can be repeated like dial-peers, > translation rules/patterns, dspfarm, QoS, etc. I think its MUCH > faster than manually typing the configs each time. I always configure > BR1 first so most of the time I'm just tweaking some settings and pasting > into BR2. > > Just my input based on my own studies. I'm sure there are veterans > out there who have a better insight into saving time. I'm interested > to hear their take as well. > > Marty > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:58 AM, singh <singh8...@in.com> wrote: > >> >> hi Everyone, >> >> I need your inputs here. I have been trying to complete mock and >> practice labs in 8 hours . However their I am unable to finish or I >> finish with lab with a lot of mistakes with no time for testing. >> >> I also realize that I lose thing in the first half and speed up >> during the end . Generally I take... >> >> 1) 10 mins to test if all equipment is working fine ( 10 mins) >> 2) read the workbook questions for the next 15 mins >> 3) Make note of the ip addresses and router configuration per site in >> 25 mins >> 4) Make note of all cucm configuration , cups , unity connection , >> uccx and cue for another & dial plan 20 mins >> 5) Now from point 5 - I start with lab configurations from Branch 2 ( >> site c - which is a mgcp gateway and srst setup) this generally takes >> me about 1 and a half hour to just complete all configuration ( 1 >> hour and 30 >> mins) >> 6) Then I move to Branch 1 ( site B - which is a H323 gateway with >> srst) this ge nerally takes about 45 - 50 mins >> 7) I then move to HQ ( R1 - which is MGCP gateway with srst ) this >> generally takes 20 mins . >> 8) Basic setup of DP , css, aar, NTP , service parameters and >> enterprise para , vlans , dhcp and ip phone registration takes 50 >> mins >> 9) CUC integ and other config including recording takes 20 mins >> 10 ) CUE integration and trafer setup takes 20 mins >> 11) UCCX integration , One button , script and recording takes 40 >> mins >> 12) CUPs integration and client setup takes 20 mins >> 13 )I then come back to callmanger and do the media resource setup , >> gateways added cucm , other configuration such as MVA , RSVP , + dial >> , adding trunks , unassigned dn setup to CUC - this takes 50 mins >> 14 ) Then I move to the Route pattern setup on callmanger this I do >> for 3 sites - HQ , Site B and Site C with or without redundancy on >> callmanger this takes 25 mins >> 15 ) Then do this such as RTMT log collection and indicating informa >> tion in seperate files , MGCP debugs this takes another 15 mins >> 16 ) Switch and WAN QOS this I plan to do only if time permits as >> this is a complex section >> >> >> Questions : >> ======================= >> >> 1) I barely am able to finish things in time . I have heard from on >> this forum that there are candidates who finish it is 5 - 6 hours . >> Would anyone be able to share with me as to how they do this ? >> >> 2) Even if the above I complete exercises are complete there are >> sections where I miss out on configurations. How do I make sure all >> config for all sections is done correctly? >> >> 3) I really wish I am able to finish the lab in 6 hours so that I can >> test for another 2 hours . Could someone therefore check the above 16 >> points and let me know about the time I can reduce. >> >> 4) As you can see above the router configurations consume a bit more >> time making ( points 5 , 6 , 7 ) . I have tried with both using a >> notepad to type the configurations and then paste & also with typing >> on cli but both these methods take around the same time. Please let >> me know what best method I can use for points 5 , 6 , 7. >> >> >> 5) Other suggestions are most welcome . >> >> >> >> Thanks guys in advance for all your help! >> >> Regards, >> Singh >> >> >> >> >> Get Yourself a cool, short *@in.com* Email ID >> now!<http://www3.in.com/sso/commonregister.php?ref=IN&utm_source=invi >> te&utm_medium=outgoing> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >> please visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: </archives/ccie_voice/attachments/20130606/b7f3d381/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:04:01 -0500 From: Bill Lake <whl...@gmail.com> To: Martin Sloan <martinsloa...@gmail.com> Cc: "ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com" <ccie_voice@onlinestudylist.com>, singh <singh8...@in.com>, "ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com" <ccie_voice-requ...@onlinestudylist.com> Subject: Re: [OSL | CCIE_Voice] Lab strategy Message-ID: <CADpb93P8k0uK4A=s46vf_q9i0qqq+uskzkuf8zfvttyhoat...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Where are you taking your lab? That has to play into your plan in taking the lab. I took my lab at RTP, my plan was to use the device base approach. 1) I reviewed the outline of the lab, looking for very specific things throughout the lab that required early planning. An example of this would be a System wide parameter that I would need to configure early on. 2) quickly notepad the items I would need throughout the lab 3) rough scope of the lab, my device based approach and dial plan page This took about 20 minutes to complete and in my opinion you should not spend more than 30 and your goal should be 15. At this point I started my device based approach and for me this was my order 1) HQ switch 2) do base to get CUE started and start CUE 3) HQ Router 4) SB router 5) Check on CUE, do anything I thought I needed and could then reboot it 6) SC router 7) finish CUE 8) base CUCM 9) dial-plan with testing as I go all calls in round robin so I am using every phone to make calls (try to complete to this point) when 5 minutes before archive or back up all configs you can just incase Lunch 10) finish CUCM 11) CUC 12) CUPS 13) UCCX 14) Test everything you can Make sure you do not get stuck on one thing, spend 10 minutes and move on, circle back and try to complete it but keep moving. I know it sounds simple but you will be amazed how long you might spend on a 2-3 point item you know you can do when it is costing you other points you could be scoring. During your testing focus on being the proctor and thinking how he might find fault in what you did. Almost working perfectly won't get you the points. Bill On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Martin Sloan <martinsloa...@gmail.com>wrote: > Let me say, I've never sat the lab so I'm just commenting on my own > study experience. > > - Points 3 & 4 are probably consuming too much time. Documenting > IP's is good but I don't currently go through and check configs. I > figure i'll get to it when it's time to configure that piece and if > there are issues I'll do my troubleshooting then. > - 1.5hrs for Br2 seems like a long time. I think you can get quicker > with that part and do it in 45min or less, depending on the complexity. > > Just with those savings you're getting closer to your 6 hour goal. I > use notepad for anything that can be repeated like dial-peers, > translation rules/patterns, dspfarm, QoS, etc. I think its MUCH > faster than manually typing the configs each time. I always configure > BR1 first so most of the time I'm just tweaking some settings and pasting > into BR2. > > Just my input based on my own studies. I'm sure there are veterans > out there who have a better insight into saving time. I'm interested > to hear their take as well. > > Marty > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:58 AM, singh <singh8...@in.com> wrote: > >> >> hi Everyone, >> >> I need your inputs here. I have been trying to complete mock and >> practice labs in 8 hours . However their I am unable to finish or I >> finish with lab with a lot of mistakes with no time for testing. >> >> I also realize that I lose thing in the first half and speed up >> during the end . Generally I take... >> >> 1) 10 mins to test if all equipment is working fine ( 10 mins) >> 2) read the workbook questions for the next 15 mins >> 3) Make note of the ip addresses and router configuration per site in >> 25 mins >> 4) Make note of all cucm configuration , cups , unity connection , >> uccx and cue for another & dial plan 20 mins >> 5) Now from point 5 - I start with lab configurations from Branch 2 ( >> site c - which is a mgcp gateway and srst setup) this generally takes >> me about 1 and a half hour to just complete all configuration ( 1 >> hour and 30 >> mins) >> 6) Then I move to Branch 1 ( site B - which is a H323 gateway with >> srst) this ge nerally takes about 45 - 50 mins >> 7) I then move to HQ ( R1 - which is MGCP gateway with srst ) this >> generally takes 20 mins . >> 8) Basic setup of DP , css, aar, NTP , service parameters and >> enterprise para , vlans , dhcp and ip phone registration takes 50 >> mins >> 9) CUC integ and other config including recording takes 20 mins >> 10 ) CUE integration and trafer setup takes 20 mins >> 11) UCCX integration , One button , script and recording takes 40 >> mins >> 12) CUPs integration and client setup takes 20 mins >> 13 )I then come back to callmanger and do the media resource setup , >> gateways added cucm , other configuration such as MVA , RSVP , + dial >> , adding trunks , unassigned dn setup to CUC - this takes 50 mins >> 14 ) Then I move to the Route pattern setup on callmanger this I do >> for 3 sites - HQ , Site B and Site C with or without redundancy on >> callmanger this takes 25 mins >> 15 ) Then do this such as RTMT log collection and indicating informa >> tion in seperate files , MGCP debugs this takes another 15 mins >> 16 ) Switch and WAN QOS this I plan to do only if time permits as >> this is a complex section >> >> >> Questions : >> ======================= >> >> 1) I barely am able to finish things in time . I have heard from on >> this forum that there are candidates who finish it is 5 - 6 hours . >> Would anyone be able to share with me as to how they do this ? >> >> 2) Even if the above I complete exercises are complete there are >> sections where I miss out on configurations. How do I make sure all >> config for all sections is done correctly? >> >> 3) I really wish I am able to finish the lab in 6 hours so that I can >> test for another 2 hours . Could someone therefore check the above 16 >> points and let me know about the time I can reduce. >> >> 4) As you can see above the router configurations consume a bit more >> time making ( points 5 , 6 , 7 ) . I have tried with both using a >> notepad to type the configurations and then paste & also with typing >> on cli but both these methods take around the same time. Please let >> me know what best method I can use for points 5 , 6 , 7. >> >> >> 5) Other suggestions are most welcome . >> >> >> >> Thanks guys in advance for all your help! >> >> Regards, >> Singh >> >> >> >> >> Get Yourself a cool, short *@in.com* Email ID >> now!<http://www3.in.com/sso/commonregister.php?ref=IN&utm_source=invi >> te&utm_medium=outgoing> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, >> please visit www.ipexpert.com >> >> Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out >> www.PlatinumPlacement.com >> > > > _______________________________________________ > For more information regarding industry leading CCIE Lab training, > please visit www.ipexpert.com > > Are you a CCNP or CCIE and looking for a job? Check out > www.PlatinumPlacement.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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