Well that make ssense. I'm just trying to ensure that CCNet will run on something like Windows Server 2012 since 2012 installs .net framework 4.5 by default, and no longer includes version 3.5 during install. Correct me if I am mistaken though.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ruben Willems Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 3:47 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ccnet-user] Support .NET framework Hi I think you're mixing a few things : Not moving to .Net 4.0 / 4.5 has nothing to do with security. I doubt that .Net 4.0 is more secure than .Net 3.5 Nothing is preventing any user to update his/her .Net 3.5 with the latest patches / fixes --> updating .Net is not the same as keeping your OS up to date .Net 3.5 runs on winXP through win7 (win8?) And when CCNet requires .Net 3.5 to run, it can perfectly build projects that run in .Net 2.0 / 4.0 /4.5 We're just not pushing our users to the latest framework whenever a new one comes out. Off course there will be a time that we'll move to .Net 4.0 / 4.5 / 5.0 , even if we do not use anything specific of that version --> Just to prevent that the majority of our users have to install an old .Net framework on their build server, just to be able to build their projects. It could be that CCNet 1.9 will eventually be released in .Net 4.0, but nothing stops us from still releasing 1.8 releases on the .Net 3.5 This way people who can not upgrade right away can still get fixes / new features as long as they are compatible to 1.8 People who can upgrade and only have the latest framework can use the latest version of CCNet. But the exact solution we'll have to see, my crystal boll just broke [cid:[email protected]] with kind regards Ruben Willems On 31 August 2012 21:24, Katherine Moss <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I guess I tend to say that because I'm a very enthusiastic tech, and so I always like to have the latest stuff to play with. My mentors teach me to be the same way here at my college, so I guess I was just brought up on the cutting edge. But another reason why I tend to make updates mandatory in my setups is because I feel much more secure on the latest Operating system; more malware propagates to XP than to 7, so why not use the one that is more secure? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Andy Levy Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 9:09 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [ccnet-user] Support .NET framework On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Ruben Willems <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Hi > > Because that would require all the users of CCNet to update their > buildserver just to be able to run CCNet. > There are many companies where such an update is not that easily done, > I worked for one of them. > > It takes a lot of paperwork and time and effort to get this done, and > since CCNet will not use any of the new features, why make an upgrade > mandatory? > > > We still do not even use anything of .Net 4.0 specific :-) an upgrade > from .NEt 1.1 to 2.0 was neat : generics from .Net 2.0 to 3.5 : > Linq, anonymous types, lambda's, ... > > .Net 4 also has some neat features, but we do not require them for the > moment Thank you for this. I can see how some people might want to force the latest version to try out all the "hot, new features" of the Framework, but if there isn't a compelling reason to actually *use* them, why force it? CCNet isn't a "fun project" to many of us regular users - it's a piece of business-critical operational software, and that means we can't just push a system update out into our environment on a whim. > On 31 August 2012 13:31, Katherine Moss > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I don't know specifics, I just see no reason not to require the >> highest .net framework version. What's wrong with requiring .NET >> framework 4.5 because it's the most current? >> >> >> >> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On >> Behalf Of Ruben Willems >> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 3:17 AM >> >> >> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [ccnet-user] Support .NET framework >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> What things in 4.5 would be great for CCNet (buildserver / dashboard >> / >> cctray) ? >> I've got no clue for the moment >> >> >> with kind regards >> Ruben Willems >> >> On 31 August 2012 01:34, Katherine Moss >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I think it a discussion that should be had then. >> >> >> >> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On >> Behalf Of Steve Celius >> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 3:53 PM >> >> >> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [ccnet-user] Support .NET framework >> >> >> >> For CCNet, it is not about supporting the latest technology, you can >> configure your builds to make 4.5 stuff if you'd like to. >> >> It is about keeping the requirements for running the thing down, >> which is a good thing. Of course, there might be stuff in 4.0 and >> later that would ease development for the brave core-team, but that >> is another discussion I think. >> >> /Steve >> >> Katherine Moss >> >> 30. august 2012 21:48 >> >> Woe? No support for .net 4.0? You guys are missing out; think of >> version >> 4.5 as well. What are you thinking; why not always support the >> latest technology? >> >> >> >> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On >> Behalf Of stevec >> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 9:36 AM >> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [ccnet-user] Support .NET framework >> >> >> >> Ok...good. That means I can continue to run XP on our CI box for a while. >> Thanks for the info, Ruben. >> >> Steve >> >> On Thursday, August 30, 2012 5:13:50 AM UTC-4, Ruben Willems wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> For the moment there are no plans for a move to .Net 4 if that is >> what you mean the current version 1.8 is at framework 3.5 >> >> with kind regards >> Ruben Willems >> >> On 29 August 2012 19:38, Stephan Clark >> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> A quick question: I've got a CC-Net build server running on XP Pro. >> Will that OS continue to be able to run CC-Net for the foreseeable >> future (12-18 months)? >> >> >> >> Steve Clark >> >> >> >> >> >> Ruben Willems >> >> 30. august 2012 11:13 >> >> Hi >> >> For the moment there are no plans for a move to .Net 4 if that is >> what you mean the current version 1.8 is at framework 3.5 >> >> with kind regards >> Ruben Willems >> >> > >
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