1) Why do you think there is twinning? If you label a structure whose true spacegroup is H32 as having SG H3, then some of the twinning analyses report that this is consistent with perfect twinning..

I believe the graphs of the moments from TRUNCATE give a true indicator.
Ditto the latest SFCHECK in ccp4-6.0.2 does a good analysis and usually gets it right

2) If there is twinning smetimes a smaller crystal shows less effect.

3) If you can solve it then it can be refined using SHELXL.
MR works for twiinned data usually..

Eleanor

Mark Mayer wrote:
Hi,

I'd greatly appreciate advice on how to proceed with trying to solve and refine a structure with nearly perfect merohedral twinning - or is this impossible? The SG is H3; most likely nmol is asu is 4 from Matthews coefficient - but not sure about this.
Here are the twinning stats from phenix xtriage
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| Operator  | type | R obs. | Britton alpha | H alpha | ML alpha |
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| h,-h-k,-l |   M  | 0.038  | 0.452         | 0.468   | 0.478    |
------------------------------------------------------------------ The data is for a novel ligand complex for which we have previously solved structures with different ligands in other space groups - the protein has two domains, and these may have moved compared to other structures.

So what should I do? Try and solve by MR using detwinned structure factors? Can Refmac refine the twin fraction, or should I refine against detwinned mtz file? Or ... should we look for additional xtal forms, or try additives to see if we can reduce twinning?

Thanks !!!



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