> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anastassis Perrakis
> Sent: 05 December 2007 13:45
> To: Jianghai Zhu
> Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] refmac5.3 vs refmac5.4
> 
> 
> On Dec 5, 2007, at 14:05, Jianghai Zhu wrote:
> 
> 
>       Hi all,
> 
>       I updated refmac5.3 to refmac5.4 and found out that the 
> reported RMSDs are quite different from these two versions 
> even the refining protocols are the same.
> 
>       refmac5.3
>       rmsBOND rmsANGLE rmsCHIRAL 
>       0.006 0.694 0.046
>       
> 
>       refmac5.4
>       rmsBOND rmsANGLE rmsCHIRAL
>       0.015 1.150 0.004
>       
> 
>       The R and Rfree are very similar from these two 
> versions of refmac5.  Does refmac5.4 have different geometry 
> weights from refmac5.3?  Which one is more reasonable?
> 
> 
> 
> besides the obvious answer that Garib gave (I agree...5.4 is 
> better), it might be good to remind (without going to the 
> long previous discussions about the best
> rmsBOND), that its the users responsibility to choose correct weights.

Tassos, whilst not wishing to rerun this argument all over again (in any
case I have nothing further to add to it), I should point out that this
month's Acta D contains a letter I wrote in response to an earlier
article on this subject:

http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2007/05/00/wd5076/wd5076.pdf

My letter is here:

http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2007/12/00/gx5119/gx5119.pdf

and for the opposing view also see:

http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2007/12/00/be5098/be5098.pdf

This is also relevant:

http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2007/10/00/be5093/be5093.pdf

As you said, it's the user's responsibility to make up his/her own mind
based on the theoretical arguments and the experimental evidence.

-- Ian


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