I would agree with this statement, my preference is VERY STRONG. We mostly work on Nucleosome and Nucleosome-nuclear protein complexes. By definition these are low-resolution structures. They are very difficult to interpret, even with stereo and I could not imagine even trying to work on things like this without stereo. And yes, I am "old" - I learned O on SGIs with dials (which we have kept as a momento, but nobody uses them anymore) and yes, most of us have changed to Coot.
This reminds me: it would REALLY be nice to have a program that is better at fitting ('non-standard') DNA in electron density. Any suggestions? Mark -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Loll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 6:01 am Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard People's feelings about using stereo seem to be highly idiosyncratic, but for many of us who are pro-stereo, the preference is VERY STRONG. Pat On Sep 16, 2008, at 8:26 PM, Warren DeLano wrote: CCP4bb, Some graphics news:? Full operating-system support for stereo 3D has at last been restored on Mac OS X Leopard, but NOT in Leopard's X11 just yet (the Xquartz open-source community will hopefully soon remedy this...). While today's fix is great for native Mac OpenGL applications like MacPyMOL, my fear is that other critical applications will still be unable to support stereo 3D under Leopard because of a reliance upon X11/GLX for OpenGL. ? While Qt-based programs may now work fine in stereo 3D, X11-based apps such as open-source PyMOL are definitely still mono 3D-only under Leopard 10.5.5. Perhaps some of the other software developers can chime in soon regarding their support for stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard 10.5.5?? At the very least, I am thinking of: ? ccp4mg, O, coot, and VIDA/AFITT, as well as perhaps Chimera, VMD, and MOE. Apologies if I left out something important!? Along those lines, what other "go to" molecular graphics apps are crystallographers using on Macs these days?? In other words, who else should we/Apple lean on? Also, do crystallographers still consider stereo 3D to be a high-priority or must-have feature in a graphics workstation? ? Cheers, Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick J. Loll, Ph. D.?? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Professor?of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology Director, Biochemistry Graduate Program Drexel University College of Medicine Room 10-102 New College Building 245 N. 15th St., Mailstop 497 Philadelphia, PA??19102-1192??USA (215) 762-7706 [EMAIL PROTECTED] =