I second Chris's suggestions. These have worked well for me in the past. You only need a very thin layer of the grease (i.e. keep wiping until its almost completely gone) and it usually has no affect on the crystallization.

Jeff


On Jan 27, 2009, at 3:51 PM, Christopher Colbert wrote:

If you have good and bad crystals in the same drop, I've had success
pushing a crummy crystal into a good crystal and having it release that
way.

Additionally, once I realized this was going to be a long term problem, I started coating the sitting drop depressions with a thin layer of vacuum grease. The crystals just slid right off the grease and I never saw any
changes in the diffraction data to suggest the grease was giving me
issues.

Chris

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Savvas Savvides wrote:

Dear colleagues,

we have been growing crystals of a protein complex in sitting- drop geometry that stick to the bottom of the drop remarkably well. It's as if they are glued onto the plastic. This makes crystal handling next to impossible without destroying the crystals. We have tried whiskers, loops, all kinds of micro-tools, and pipetting techniques to no avail. I can say at the outset that we have been unsuccessful in growing these crystals in hanging-drops or at 4 degrees. Deglycosylating the complex also leads to nowhere. In fact, we are only able to get crystals from homogeneously glycosylated protein
produced in HEK293S/I- cells.



In the meantime we are playing with the idea of  siliconizing the
sitting-drop depressions to alter the crystal/plate interface. But then again, nucleation events on the plastic may be the reason we are getting crystals in the first place. We have also thought of trying microseeding to have more control on nucleation issues. Our protein production is quite limiting and forces us to be very selective with our experimentation.



Nonetheless, while we are waiting for fresh material to explore some of these ideas we would like to make the most out of the crystals we have grown thus far. We would therefore very much appreciate any input/ ideas on
manipulating these crystals for data collection.



Best wishes

Savvas





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Ghent University
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From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
Katarina Moravcevic
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:52 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] pseudo translation



Hi all,

here is a question from a beginner. I have a home source data set that indexed and scaled in a P2 space group (a=46.704,b=59.362, c=48.783, alpha=90.0, beta=104.469, gamma=90.0) with predicted 2mol/au. After failing to get a MR solution with Phaser I ran the phenix.xtriage which showed that I have a large (89.18) Patterson peak at 0.5 0 0.5 which indicates pseudo translational symmetry. I was wondering if there is anything I could do with this data to get around this problem. Given that I don't have a lot of
experience any suggestion/explanation would be fantastic.

Thanks in advance

K





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