i have cloned my gene successfully into qiagen vector into pqe30 but i do 
transformation of this into BL21,pLys,Rosseta,C41, i dont get any colonies,comp 
cells are good other clones give good no of colonies upon transformation.
can someone help???
thanks
atul

-----Original Message-----
From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of herman.schreu...@sanofi-aventis.com
Sent: Mon 5/4/2009 3:49 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Peptide on two-fold axis - was:[ccp4bb] PEG molecule 
crossing a two-fold crystallographic symmetry axis
 
Dear Lidefeng,

One "Tassos" afterthought; you are sure you traced the chain correctly? It is 
not that both change make a crystal contact and then each go their own 
(disordered) way? 

Best regards,
Herman

-----Original Message-----
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of lidefeng
Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:48 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Peptide on two-fold axis - was:[ccp4bb] PEG molecule 
crossing a two-fold crystallographic symmetry axis

Dear Herman.Schreuder,

           Perhaps there is some misunderstanding about my question.  There is 
one molecule in the asymmetric unit (showed as symbos A). After the  2nd 
crystallographic symmetric operation, another molecule appears (symbol B).  
However, the density show that there is one peptide chain cross the 2nd axis 
(symbol C).  If we give chain C occupancy of 0.5, only 50% of chain C belongs 
to molecules A and B, respectively.  In another word, , it looks like one half 
of chain C belongs to molecule A and the other belongs to B.  It means that one 
half of chain C belongs to molecule A disappear, so do that belongs to molecule 
B.

                  2nd axis
                    |
            AAAAAA  |  BBBBBB
            AAAAAA  |  BBBBBB
            AA      |      BB
             \      |      /
             CCCCCCC|CCCCCCC      |
                    |
                    |
           Your sincerely
????????De-Feng Li
????????lidef...@moon.ibp.ac.cn
??????????2009-05-01

Defeng Li, Dr.,
Email: lidef...@moon.ibp.ac.cn
National Laboratory of Biomacromolecules, Institute of Biophysics, Chinese 
Academy of Sciences,
15 Datun Road, Chaoyang District,
Beijing 100101, China


======= 2009-04-30 14:52:00 You writed in your letter:=======

>Dear Feng-Li,
>
>The other half occupancy peptide is generated by crystallographic symmetry 
>(the twofold), you need only to build one. To check that everything fits 
>properly, you should switch on the crystallographic symmetry in coot. (Draw -> 
>Cell & Symmetry).
>
>Good luck!
>Herman
> 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of 
>lidefeng
>Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 3:44 AM
>To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Peptide on two-fold axis - was:[ccp4bb] PEG 
>molecule crossing a two-fold crystallographic symmetry axis
>
>Dear Tim Gruene,
>
>         But how to illustrate the other one half occupancy of peptide? 
> Disorder ?
>
>
>           Your sincerely
>????????De-Feng Li
>????????lidef...@moon.ibp.ac.cn
>??????????2009-04-30
>
>Defeng Li, Dr.,
>Email: lidef...@moon.ibp.ac.cn
>National Laboratory of Biomacromolecules, Institute of Biophysics, 
>Chinese Academy of Sciences,
>15 Datun Road, Chaoyang District,
>Beijing 100101, China
>
>
>======= 2009-04-29 10:55:00 You writed in your letter:=======
>
>>Hello De-Feng Li,
>>
>>first of all sorry for changing the subject: I think starting a new 
>>thread from an existing one may hamper people who are going to search 
>>the archives in the future, therefore it is good practice to give it 
>>its separate subject line, even though it certainly is be very closely 
>>related.
>>
>>In your case you can refine two peptides each with an occupancy of 
>>0.5, one for each direction.
>>
>>Tim
>>--
>>Tim Gruene
>>Institut fuer anorganische Chemie
>>Tammannstr. 4
>>D-37077 Goettingen
>>
>>GPG Key ID = A46BEE1A
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, lidefeng wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>        Following Chandrika's question, what should I do if one peptide 
>>> chain crosses a two-fold crystallographic symmetry axis?
>>> The peptide is not symmetric and the sidechain of one Se-Met (two after CS 
>>> operation) is determined and conformed by MAD.
>>>
>>>           Your sincerely
>>> ????????De-Feng Li
>>> ????????lidef...@moon.ibp.ac.cn
>>> ??????????2009-04-29
>>>
>>> Defeng Li, Dr.,
>>> Email: lidef...@moon.ibp.ac.cn
>>> National Laboratory of Biomacromolecules, Institute of Biophysics, 
>>> Chinese Academy of Sciences,
>>> 15 Datun Road, Chaoyang District,
>>> Beijing 100101, China
>>>
>>>
>>> ======= 2009-04-29 17:02:00 You writed in your letter?=======
>>>
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> My protein crystallised in the spacegroup P6522 with one protein molecule 
>>>> in the asymmetric unit. I have a PEG molecule from the crystallization 
>>>> condition which crosses a two-fold crystallographic symmetry axis. PEG is 
>>>> symmetric hence this does not violate the crystal symmetry. However, this 
>>>> situation causes two problems which I need to solve :
>>>>
>>>> First, How can I refine this structure ? I am using Phenix. Is there a way 
>>>> to remove van der Waals repulsion between one half occupancy PEG and its 
>>>> crystallographic symmetry mate ?
>>>>
>>>> Second, how do I submit this structure to PDB ? Do I include a full PEG 
>>>> molecule at half occupancy even though one half is related to the other 
>>>> via crystallographic symmetry ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Chandrika
>>>
>>> ========================================================
>>>
>>>
>
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