No, there would still be an order involved. I think she wants to superimpose two small molecules with arbitrary atom names. So she needs a subgraph isomorphism detector without constraints on the labels and ordering of the vertices (atoms), but which is not scale-free (as we want low RMSDs as opposed to mere topological equivalence). But I'm just guessing.

--Gerard



On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Soisson, Stephen M wrote:

Would a simple hack, like renaming all of the atoms in each file to be
'CA' and then using a conventional alignment program work?  Maybe I am
caffeine deficient at the moment, but that seems worth trying.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of
Gerard DVD Kleywegt
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 10:50 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] 3D fitting

But it still won't solve Miri's problem. I think what she is asking for
is a
program that detects which atoms should be matched to which,
irrespective of
their names (i.e., not assuming they are called " CA ") and order (i.e.,
not
nicely sequential such as amino-acid residues), and then applies the
operator
that follows from that.

--dvd


On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, Kevin Cowtan wrote:

SSM is also available in Coot and CCP4MG of course...


Eleanor Dodson wrote:
would ssm serve your purpose?

eleanor

ebi or ccp4i



Miri Hirshberg wrote:
Sun., Jan. 17th 2010
EBI

Greetings,

I am looking for a 3D structure superposition program which takes
two structures and superpose them based only on the coordinates
X,Y,Z
regardless of of residue/atoms name.

(both files are in PDB format)

Thanks
Miri

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Best wishes,

--Gerard

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