Dear Dirk

You might find one of the programs mentioned by Andreas below useful for your purpose.

Cheers
Alex

Am 28.07.2010 um 18:26 schrieb Andreas Förster <docandr...@gmail.com>:

Here's a preliminary summary of the suggestions I got from the ccp4 community regarding the problem stated below (calculate theoretical SAXS data from EM reconstruction):

The program em2dam, currently developed at EMBL-Hamburg (where the magicians of SAXS live), converts a Spider map into a pdb file, which can then be used as input for another EMBL-Hamburg program, crysol. This approach does what I want. Nice. Em2dam hasn't been released yet, but is available for testing upon request (ashku...@embl-hamburg.de ).
http://www.embl-hamburg.de/ExternalInfo/Research/Sax/software.html


HYDRO can also calculate scattering form factors from dummy-bead models, but I didn't try that out. From the group that wrote HYDRO comes hydromic, a program that calculates, from an EM map, a distance distribution and a P vs. h list whose usefulness didn't immediately reveal itself to me. Those more familiar with SAXS might find that this program is just what they want.
http://leonardo.fcu.um.es/macromol/programs/programs.htm


The program vol2pdb, which is part of the situs package, converts spider format em maps to dummy-bead models. I couldn't suppress the feeling that the pdbs obtained with em2dam were closer to the truth. Situs also has a SAXS tutorial that might be useful.
http://situs.biomachina.org/tutorial_saxs.html

The EMAN program proc3d with the calcsf option can calculate scattering curves. The output file contains the F**2/s distribution for the map with max=0.0. Some scaling might be required. I didn't try this.
http://blake.bcm.tmc.edu/eman/

Chimera might have a SAXS function.  I didn't check.
http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/chimera/

Thanks to all who contributed ideas and suggested approaches, and special thanks to Alex for sharing em2dam.


Andreas



On 23/07/2010 11:54, Andreas Förster wrote:
Dear all,

the other day I obtained SAXS data from which a low-resolution
structural model was calculated. The model is simpler/less complex than
one of the same protein that we obtained with cryo-EM.

Is there a way to estimate theoretical SAXS data from a cryo-EM
reconstruction to compare with the obtained raw data? Is there a program that does for a reconstruction what CRYSOL does for pdbs? I understand that there would be a huge amount of handwaving involved, but it might
help us reconcile our models.

Thanks.


Andreas



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      Paul Freemont & Xiaodong Zhang Labs
Department of Biochemistry, Imperial College London
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