I must note that it is also interesting to know why the sfcheck produced
the R-factor that is twice as high.  Of course, the R/Rfree are not
supposed to match precisely (as I recall, sfcheck uses Babinet bulk
solvent correction which is presumably inferior to the mask-based
approach), but 28.6 versus 14.7?  Something may be seriously wrong.

On Fri, 2010-10-22 at 09:37 +0200, Tim Gruene wrote:
> Dear Vinson,
> 
> I would still be interested about what was the cause of the missing R-free 
> flags
> and how you resolved it (I hope I did not miss an email).
> 
> Kind regards, Tim
> 
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 02:33:03PM +0800, Vinson LIANG wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Dear all, 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you very much for your suggestions.
> > 
> > I try Pavel's easy method. Hopefully, the result from phenix.model_vs_data 
> > would be enough for PDB.
> > 
> >  
> > Best wishes, 
> >  
> > Vinson
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 发件人: Pavel Afonine <pafon...@lbl.gov>
> > 收件人: PHENIX user mailing list <pheni...@phenix-online.org>
> > 抄 送: Vinson LIANG <lwg_conrad_1...@yahoo.com.cn>
> > 发送日期: 2010/10/22 (周五) 12:44:58 上午
> > 主 题: Re: [phenixbb] R-free problem with phenix.refine
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Recently I deposited a structure to PDB. However, I was told
> > >> The R value of SF check are different from your reported value.
> > >> 
> > >>     R work in SF check = 0.2859
> > >>     your reported R work = 0.1474
> > >> Also there are no R free flags in your sending files, but you reported R 
> > >> free value in your all deposition.
> > well, SF check is not the best tool to check things - it's not just my only 
> > vision, see lots of conversations on this topic on bb.
> > 
> > Just run
> > 
> > phenix.model_vs_data model.pdb data.hkl 
> > 
> > and if output statistics matches the one you deposited to PDB, then you are 
> > 100% good. If it doesn't match then there is something to worry about.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > So, I rerun my deposited file with phenix.refine, and it gave a 
> > R-work=0.1475, R-free=0.1742. 
> > 
> > Sounds good.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > However, when I tried to run the same file with refmac5, error came with 
> > "Free R label has not been set". I guess phenix.refine gives Rree-R label 
> > that other program could not recognize. 
> > 
> > No surprises. Jumping between programs is tricky. You have to account for a 
> > lot of things to match things that different programs expect differently.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Could anyone please help me to solve this problem?
> > Step-by-step:
> > 
> > 1) Run
> > phenix.model_vs_data model.pdb data.hkl 
> > 
> > 2) if output statistics matches the one you deposited to PDB, then you are 
> > 100% good. Come back to PDB and say this.  
> > 
> > 3) If it doesn't match then there is something that you need to fix. If you 
> > can't fix or have no idea what's wrong, you can send me the data and model 
> > and I will have a look.
> > 
> > Pavel.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >        
> > 
> > 
> >       

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