This brings up a philosophical caveat that one should be very careful about 
labeling one set of potential results "negative" and another "positive" before 
even doing the experiment, because its all too easy to see what you hoped to 
see even if it was only marginally there.

The best experimentalists rig things so that something will be learned from any 
possible result.  

Of course, in this light, crystallization is a really stupid experiment.  And 
by the time I'm really convinced that we're getting nowhere crystallizing 
something, I'm too demoralized to bother writing up all the ways to not 
crystallize it.

  Phoebe

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Phoebe A. Rice
Dept. of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology
The University of Chicago
phone 773 834 1723
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---- Original message ----
>Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:35:31 +0530
>From: CCP4 bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> (on behalf of Partha 
>Chakrabarti <ppc...@gmail.com>)
>Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: Could Biological Negative Results be published?  
>To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>
>   What if the negative results contradict some recent
>   papers in big journals? Would the PI risk his / her
>   contacts & connections? Of course for the PhD
>   student or postdoc, it matters a lot to get it
>   'published'..
>
>   On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Bosch, Juergen
>   <jubo...@jhsph.edu> wrote:
>
>     http://www.jnrbm.com/
>     Might this be what you are looking for ?
>     Jürgen
>     ......................
>     Jürgen Bosch
>     Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
>     Department of Biochemistry & Molecular Biology
>     Johns Hopkins Malaria Research Institute
>     615 North Wolfe Street, W8708
>     Baltimore, MD 21205
>     Phone: +1-410-614-4742
>     Lab:      +1-410-614-4894
>     Fax:      +1-410-955-3655
>     http://web.mac.com/bosch_lab/
>     On Jul 11, 2011, at 6:03 AM, F.Xavier Gomis-Rüth
>     wrote:
>
>       Dear CCP4ers,
>       I think this is a very interesting initiative
>       and it could potentially lead to a discussion
>       within the board.
>       Best,
>       Xavier
>
>       -------- Mensaje original --------
>
>       Asunto: Could Biological Negative Results be     
>               published?                               
>        Fecha: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:39:52 -0500          
>           De: David Alcantara                          
>               <listmas...@mail.arjournals.com>         
>         Para: f...@ibmb.csic.es                        
>
>  Dear colleague,
>
> As you are well aware it is common in our field that many of our
> endeavors do not lead to the results we want or expect. Numerous tests
> and experiments have outcomes that we share with our immediate
> colleagues during informal meetings, but that we are not considering
> material for publication. As a result a wealth of information is never
> brought to the attention of the greater public, which is not only
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> the same negative results. Not only are a lot of resources like time
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> of the negative results of earlier studies.
>
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