If you do the calculations, you will find that you need a FREE ligand 
concentration of >10 * Kd to get >90% occupancy of the binding site.
If you have e.g. a ligand with a Kd of 100 nM, you would need a free ligand 
concentration of 1 µM. However, a solution of 10 mg/ml of a protein of 30 kDa, 
has a protein concentration of 333 µM, so in theory you should have a total 
ligand concentration (free + bound) of 334 µM. In pratice, some of the ligand 
may have been degraded during (prolonged) storaged, or the compound may not be 
as pure as the chemist would have wished it to be, so it is wise to use a 
safety margin of at least two. We normally use 1-2 mM compound to be on the 
safe side. Having too much ligand usually does not hurt, except that you use 
more compound, but with too little ligand you end up with an empty binding site 
and you will have to repeat the experiment with more ligand.
 
Best,
Herman


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        From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of 
Roger Rowlett
        Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 6:11 PM
        To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
        Subject: [ccp4bb] Fwd: Re: [ccp4bb] co-crystallization
        
        
        Successful complexation depends on the concentration of protein, 
ligand, and the Kd of the protein-ligand complex. For Kd>>[protein], you will 
probably require [ligand] > 10 x Kd. As Kd approaches [protein], slightly 
superstoichiometric quantities will be sufficient for full occupancy. For Kd < 
[protein], stoichiometric quantities of ligand will suffice. Basically you need 
a [ligand] that puts near saturation on the binding isotherm.
        
        Cheers.
        
        On 8/25/2011 2:03 AM, Yvonne TAN Yih Wan wrote: 

                Hi ,

                

                I am co-crystallizing a protein with compound and would like to 
know how much of compound to add to protein solution to start with. I know that 
the protein binds compound in a 1 to 1 ratio but also noticed that the compound 
precipitates out of solution when DMSO is diluted off. Where should I start of? 
A 1 protein :2 compound ratio or more? And what is the best method to determine 
if the binding is homogeneous (that all protein has got a compound in it)?

                

                Any suggestions would help. Thanks

                

                TY

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