Tassos,

just to clarify what you are saying in the Journal with 2% deposition after 
submission, 98% have been deposited prior to submission (the way it should be). 
Is that what you are saying or am I reading that wrong ?
Or are you saying only 2% of structures are deposited in that journal ?

Jürgen

On Oct 18, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Anastassis Perrakis wrote:

Just to add in the controversy, with a somewhat related issue:

Current crystallographic ethic presumes that a structure is deposited just 
before
the submission of the paper. In a survey we did, we found that while
in one journal only 2% of structures are deposited after the paper submission 
date,
on another thats 5%, on another one that is 29% and in yet another one close to 
50%.

The journals are Nature, Science, ActaD and Proteins in order of decreasing IF.
Is there any correlation?

To get some guesses first, Robbie can send the answer tomorrow at around noon
(as I will be unavailable travelling ...)

Tassos

On 18 Oct 2012, at 21:13, Bernhard Rupp (Hofkristallrat a.D.) wrote:

Randy Read just pointed out to me that in their case-controlled analysis
paper
http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2009/02/00/ba5130/index.html

when considering lower resolution and other factors, the vanity journals
seem to come out
no worse than the rest.

In any case I suspect any retractions are underrepresented in those journals
because they fight it harder ;-)

Best, BR

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Fang et al. claim that R^2 = 0.0866, which means that CC = 0.29.
While a correlation coefficient of less than 0.3 is not "a complete lack of
correlation", it's still rather weak.

The "highly significant" must be taken in a purely statistical sense.
That is, it doesn't mean "the measures are highly correlated", it means "the
evidence for non-zero correlation is very strong".

Ethan

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